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01-01-2016, 12:38 AM
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Y'all must be really good buds.......or not!
Lol
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01-01-2016, 12:52 AM
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#82
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Originally Posted by Davidg
Y'all must be really good buds.......or not!
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Sabre family....im just messin round!!
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01-01-2016, 01:03 AM
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Dang, I hadn't noticed. I thunk Ya'll were cuzzins.
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01-01-2016, 01:49 PM
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#84
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Originally Posted by Davidg
Dang, I hadn't noticed. I thunk Ya'll were cuzzins.
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Don't matter what they are. What they haven't been is a lot of help to me.
So far it looks like Dodge is number 1 and Ford comes in second. I am really hoping my Dodge hemi will handle the mountains I am going to be running! I sure don't like the 60 grand price tag I am seeing on either!
Jim
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01-01-2016, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by oldtool2
Don't matter what they are. What they haven't been is a lot of help to me.
So far it looks like Dodge is number 1 and Ford comes in second. I am really hoping my Dodge hemi will handle the mountains I am going to be running! I sure don't like the 60 grand price tag I am seeing on either!
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Didn't think there was anything i could say that would sway one way or the other.
You already have a Chrysler, and i stated what my experience is with them after working on them for years.
So my first sentence here is supported by your quote's first couple sentence above.
Good luck!
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01-01-2016, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by B and B
Fuel additives? Ford says nothing unless it is -30 degrees C for fuel to prevent gelling. We get cetane booster as part of winter fuel blend. The only thing I will need additional with the Power Stroke is a fuel filter at 24,000 km. Same as Gas in my mind. I have a Ford service plan and Oil Changes cost the same. I have spent maybe $25 ON def IN 15,000 KM . My fuel costs are less than gas, both in price and more miles per tank.
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gas overs try all angles to discredit diesel trucks. I did all the math when diesel was 20 cents more per gallon than gas, and at that time I was saving .19 cents per mile having upgraded to diesel. The mileage increase gives me a cruising range per tank of 100-150 miles more. ALL trucks have fuel filters, so don't get the filter argument. Have you seen what spark plugs cost these days 
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01-01-2016, 02:29 PM
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First I've heard of having to use any additives in any diesel truck or tractor I have owned. Maybe that's why all mine have lasted so long, I've never used any. Maintenance? Guess if oil changes every 10,000 miles or more is a lot, changing an air filter every every now and then and a fuel filter is high maintenance then I'm supprised at high maintenance. There isn't much else to take care of, oh wait windshield wipers, there expensive and tires wear out too. LOL be real you've never owned one obviously. I've owned diesel trucks and tractors for 40 years. Just my experience with them guess I've been lucky. Oh and now the expense of 2 1/2 gallon DEF is expensive also at $8 bucks. Burn rate 1 gallon for every 50 gallons of fuel burned. Guess your right there a little expensive for some to own I'm just not one of them.
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01-01-2016, 02:52 PM
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#88
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Considering a new truck
My take on it all is buy what you want. All are about equal. However ram has a upper hand on all HD's regardless of power plant with the 100k warranty. Personally I think the ram has the best look outside and in. If I would have needed a diesel I would have bought one.
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01-01-2016, 03:03 PM
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#89
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Originally Posted by mud yapster
First I've heard of having to use any additives in any diesel truck or tractor I have owned. Maybe that's why all mine have lasted so long, I've never used any. Maintenance? Guess if oil changes every 10,000 miles or more is a lot, changing an air filter every every now and then and a fuel filter is high maintenance then I'm supprised at high maintenance. There isn't much else to take care of, oh wait windshield wipers, there expensive and tires wear out too. LOL be real you've never owned one obviously. I've owned diesel trucks and tractors for 40 years. Just my experience with them guess I've been lucky. Oh and now the expense of 2 1/2 gallon DEF is expensive also at $8 bucks. Burn rate 1 gallon for every 50 gallons of fuel burned. Guess your right there a little expensive for some to own I'm just not one of them.
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Maintenance Isn't really a concern if we are talking about normal Maintenance. As for additives? Not something I have ever used on any of my trucks or engines. Unless you count lawnmowers, then I use Staybil in the winter.
The more I read the better the Ford gas 150 when done right for what I am towing. Ram 1500 have a pretty good payload also. I have read they will do 12,000 which is more than I will probably tow before I croak! Half the price of a diesel, and sense I am 65 one might out last me if taken care of.
Jim
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01-01-2016, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ryand
My take on it all is buy what you want. All are about equal. However ram has a upper hand on all HD's regardless of power plant with the 100k warranty. Personally I think the ram has the best look outside and in. If I would have needed a diesel I would have bought one.
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Just fyi, ram cut their warranty on 2016 gas engine vehicles to 60k just like gm did for the 2016 models.
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01-01-2016, 03:08 PM
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Considering a new truck
Not on hd trucks to my knowledge. (Edit) looks like you might be right. The gas 2500 might only be 60k. Cummins and eco diesel still 100k. If so what dummies. My 15' has 100k coverage.
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01-01-2016, 03:11 PM
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Is it true that Cummins is the only true diesel ?
Ford and Chevy/ GM are modified gas engines
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01-01-2016, 03:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Homebrew
Is it true that Cummins is the only true diesel ?
Ford and Chevy/ GM are modified gas engines
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No...thats insane
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01-01-2016, 03:15 PM
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Originally Posted by ryand
Not on hd trucks to my knowledge.
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Nothing stating that. Here is what i have seen on at least 2 sites
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01-01-2016, 03:17 PM
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#95
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MillerTime
Just fyi, ram cut their warranty on 2016 gas engine vehicles to 60k just like gm did for the 2016 models.
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Thanks for the info on the Rams, didn't realize that. I guess the trend is going backwards now?
Jim
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"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man."
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01-01-2016, 03:20 PM
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#96
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MillerTime
Just fyi, ram cut their warranty on 2016 gas engine vehicles to 60k just like gm did for the 2016 models.
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That's called greasing you up before giving it to you. The writing is on the wall thanks to the EPA. All the manufacturers know the only way they are going to comply with the Federally imposed fuel mileage standards, which get more stringent over time, is to sacrifice something. The sacrifice must be weight. And when you sacrifice weight in engines you sacrifice reliability in the long term. The days of you buying a 50K or 60K pickup and getting 150K or 200K are almost over. Instead you'll be paying 60K to 80 K and getting 60K to 80K out of the engine and other power-train components. I think its 2017 they have to start meeting mileage standards on HD trucks.
No such thing as a free lunch.
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01-01-2016, 06:35 PM
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#97
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It is interesting to note the GVWR for 2014 F150 upper end was 8200 lbs but with the aluminum body and all the weight savings on the 2015 instead of increase payload they lowered the upper end GVWR to 7850. So is this going to be a trend carried over to the 2017 Ford HD with aluminum bodies?
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