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Old 03-21-2018, 05:49 AM   #1
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Goodyear Endurance vs Sailuns!

Ok y'all, putting new tires on the camper in a few weeks. Torn between these two. Looking for opinions / reviews from folks who have them.

Going on my 40' 13000lb Coachman Chaparral 360IBL. The rims are rated at 110PSI.

My concerns with the sailuns, is that they are so hard they will neat the camper to death!

Big pro for the Goodyear is that they are much more readily availible (discount tire) should I need to replace one out on our travels.

What say you?
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Old 03-21-2018, 05:59 AM   #2
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Tough call. Both have their plusses. I run the G614s. Depending on how I have the camper loaded, I run between 90 and 100 psi. There's no real need to go 110 if the weight's not there.

So honestly, don't worry about the beating the camper to death thing.
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Old 03-21-2018, 06:08 AM   #3
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IMHO, the Endurance model is too new to be proven.
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Old 03-21-2018, 06:55 AM   #4
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Hi,

My first 5,000 miles on Endurance tires have been uneventful.

The only possible downside is that I am convinced the heavier sidewalls give a harsher ride, based on how things move around inside now.

Many of us will rely on anecdotes posted in places like this to form an opinion. Endurance tires will undoubtedly generate dubious comments for the first few years, until more folks chime in with their experience. But let's keep things in context. Negative experiences tend to generate internet comments. And so far, I can't recall many, if any, disaster stories from Endurance users.

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Old 03-21-2018, 08:38 AM   #5
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I run the Sailuns pros for the tires for me would be: great side wall, they track very nicely, very low heat in them even after several hours of riding. Cons: haven’t really seen any.
Having said that I did change out the shackle hanger to the equa- flex when I changed the tires. That dramatically changed the ride. And reduced the chucking motion as well as the up and down bounce.
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I run the Sailuns pros for the tires for me would be: great side wall, they track very nicely, very low heat in them even after several hours of riding. Cons: haven’t really seen any.
Having said that I did change out the shackle hanger to the equa- flex when I changed the tires. That dramatically changed the ride. And reduced the chucking motion as well as the up and down bounce.
Did you replace shackle with OEM or another brand/style?
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Old 03-21-2018, 08:50 AM   #8
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It simply just bolts up and replaces the oem part between the springs. It was simple to install with hand tools. There are several models out there to choose from like this.
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Old 03-21-2018, 01:39 PM   #9
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Put on the Endurance before heading to Texas last fall, 2500 miles round trip. 80psi, 31' TT. Still look like new.
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Here's some recent research I did on this subject. Note that you can run the popular Sailun 235/80/16 at 80psi and they are Load Range E with 3,480 lbs carry capacity. If your wheels are rated for 110psi, you can run the same tire at 110psi and they are Load Range G with 4,080 lbs. carry capacity. I currently run the Maxxis and have had good experience with them. I'm on my second set of Maxxis simply because I wanted to change them early (@12,000 miles) before I head to Alaska.
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Good Year Endurance...no sure !

Sorry to be a bit of a trouble maker concerning Good Year Endurance, here is my story: Installed 4 new tires May 1st 2017, put roughly 13000 miles on them, most of It in a trip to western Canada (I am from Quebec), Yukon and Alaska. I drove to Florida in early march...and just come back from a GY dealer today:
- 1 tire (back axle) the tread is completely gone, I changed It today.
- 1 tire is close to the 2/32 limit (front axle).
- the other two are half way to the 2/32 limit.

I give the full story... my FW is far than being over loaded based on scale weight...13000 miles on tires is not that much, and not a full year yet.
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Old 03-21-2018, 05:16 PM   #12
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I put the Sailuns on my Cardinal 3150 and run 85-90 psi. I have a TPMS and typically the psi reading after running for a while shows 100 psi. I never have to worry about psi exceeding the rated 110 psi. And ditto regarding running at lower temps. I have about 6,000 miles on them and they look brand new.
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Sorry to be a bit of a trouble maker concerning Good Year Endurance, here is my story: Installed 4 new tires May 1st 2017, put roughly 13000 miles on them, most of It in a trip to western Canada (I am from Quebec), Yukon and Alaska. I drove to Florida in early march...and just come back from a GY dealer today:
- 1 tire (back axle) the tread is completely gone, I changed It today.
- 1 tire is close to the 2/32 limit (front axle).
- the other two are half way to the 2/32 limit.

I give the full story... my FW is far than being over loaded based on scale weight...13000 miles on tires is not that much, and not a full year yet.
You are not the 1st. I saw on a thread somewhere an Endurance that fell apart in 4 months, mileage has been forgotten

I run Sailuns. Have for over 11,000 miles and no problems. They do run cool compared to other tires I have had on TTs and 5ers.
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I put a set of Sailuns S637 tires on my Salibel a little over 2 years ago. They are great and a much improved towing experience from the old tires. My unit came with Goodyear Marathon load range E tires, I blew two on my second long trip.
The S637 Saluns are load range H tires but I only run them at 110 PSI. I had to replace the wheels as well as the tires on my unit, since the wheels were only good for 80psi and I wanted to go up at least one load range. The ride is a little stiffer in the camper but I do not blow tires now. The old Goodyears looked like toy tires next to the X637's.
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12,000 miles on Sailuns in the past 12 months, no problems. I run 100# cold and am loaded to the limit (maybe a little over on this run home from Florida). They track straight and are smooth and show no wear. Happy with them so far and would buy again.
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I have Goodyear Endurance's on my 2016 Cardinal 3450 RL, I probably have 4500 miles on them, and don't notice any real difference in the trailer ride or contents shifting around on the inside. That being said, they have only been on the market for a little over a year and so I'm not sure what my experience or other's will be once they have enough miles on them. My unit weighs about the same as yours. By the way, I went to the Endurance after blowing a Marathon with low mileage, pulled them all off and went with the USA Manufactured Endurance.
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Here's some recent research I did on this subject. Note that you can run the popular Sailun 235/80/16 at 80psi and they are Load Range E with 3,480 lbs carry capacity. If your wheels are rated for 110psi, you can run the same tire at 110psi and they are Load Range G with 4,080 lbs. carry capacity. I currently run the Maxxis and have had good experience with them. I'm on my second set of Maxxis simply because I wanted to change them early (@12,000 miles) before I head to Alaska.
That's awesome information... thank you!
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Thank you all! Great info. Still not sure what to do but leaning towards the Sailuns... especially now that I hear I can run them at 80-90 psi
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Get the Sailuns and don't look back. I was in the same spot you are a month ago. I bought the Sailuns and feel very good about my purchase.
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Hi,

My first 5,000 miles on Endurance tires have been uneventful.

The only possible downside is that I am convinced the heavier sidewalls give a harsher ride, based on how things move around inside now.

Many of us will rely on anecdotes posted in places like this to form an opinion. Endurance tires will undoubtedly generate dubious comments for the first few years, until more folks chime in with their experience. But let's keep things in context. Negative experiences tend to generate internet comments. And so far, I can't recall many, if any, disaster stories from Endurance users.

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Glad I saw this. I put Endurance on in December and have started to find my kitchen table seat cushions on the floor after trips. Maybe the ride is harsher now. I have blown out a tire but honestly, don't know if maybe I ran over something to cause it to lose air. I didn't know it was gone until it was completely off the rim. That also may have played a role in breaking a leaf Spring on my return trip home.
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