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Old 03-18-2017, 08:45 AM   #9861
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Old 03-18-2017, 10:03 AM   #9862
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Dewinterized, checked all systems and am getting ready to load camper for our first trip next weekend for a week.
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Old 03-18-2017, 10:16 AM   #9863
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Maybe someone can answer a question for me. All the outside lighting doesn't bother me, party time! But, when you go to bed and no one is outside, is it really necessary to leave it lit up like some houses at Xmas! When its not too hot I like windows open for fresh air, but with some its so bright, you get the picture. I guess I care about disturbing but a lot don't!
I completely agree with this. Some people are just inconsiderate in general. We have some rope lights we like to run around our perimeter, but we don't even put them out if we're close to another camper.
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Old 03-18-2017, 12:37 PM   #9864
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Old 03-18-2017, 01:23 PM   #9865
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Maybe someone can answer a question for me. All the outside lighting doesn't bother me, party time! But, when you go to bed and no one is outside, is it really necessary to leave it lit up like some houses at Xmas! When its not too hot I like windows open for fresh air, but with some its so bright, you get the picture. I guess I care about disturbing but a lot don't!

I've never understood it but, honestly, it's never bothered me. But then again- I'm one who can sleep in full sun without issue. Lights just don't bother my sleep.
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Old 03-18-2017, 07:22 PM   #9866
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Installed the water system accumulator thingy. I think it's a waste of time and money because I don't see any difference at all.
Are you comparing it while on city water or using the pump?

You'll see no difference on city water but you should see a big difference when using the pump.
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Old 03-18-2017, 07:38 PM   #9867
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What did you do to your camper today?

Replaced cheapo plastic faucet on bathroom sink with nice brushed nickel version

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Old 03-18-2017, 07:50 PM   #9868
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Installed the water system accumulator thingy. I think it's a waste of time and money because I don't see any difference at all.
I am sorry to hear that.
What pressure did you put in the accumulator?

This is the procedure I used to set mine.

Close the shutoff valve leading to the accumulator (important to keep antifreeze out of the tank after the system is drained and before adding "pink" during winterization.)

Using a stop watch, without the accumulator in the system, and with full system pressure on the water pump alone, flush the toilet. The pump should come on almost immediately. Record the time (if you can).

Build a water pressure metering system using the two part links at the end of this post.

Using a 1/2 NPT male to male hose thread adapter and a hose thread water pressure gauge, I replaced my plastic outside shower head with the gauge assembly to measure water pump pressure.

Open the exterior cold water faucet handle all the way.

Turn on the pump and pressurize the system.
Note the pressure when the pump shuts off.

Have someone inside just crack a facet to a drip.

Watch the gauge carefully as the pressure drops and record the pressure that the pump again turns on.

Drain the water out of your system (zero pressure).

Open the accumulator shut off valve (still should be zero pressure) and close the faucet inside the camper.

Add or remove air pressure in the accumulator tank using the Schrader Valve to 2 PSI below the pump "cut in" (turns back on) pressure.

Turn the water pump back on and let it run until the system reaches full system pressure and shuts off. This should take a minute or so since the accumulator needs to fill against the air pressure in the accumulator's bladder.

Go back inside and see how many flushes you get now before the pump kicks in (about 2 gallons of flush water). You should see a measurable difference in time and flushes before the pump kicks in and runs to refill the accumulator.

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Old 03-18-2017, 08:08 PM   #9869
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Old 03-18-2017, 08:13 PM   #9870
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Are you comparing it while on city water or using the pump?

You'll see no difference on city water but you should see a big difference when using the pump.
+1 on stored water, +0 on city water. It's a small version of what we use in our well systems to keep the pump from constantly cycling. It 'fools' the pump into thinking there is pressure when there isn't.

Should notice a big difference when running on stored water, especially if the pressure in the 'accumulatir' is adjustable. Set the pressure 30 psi to start with if it is adjustable.
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Old 03-18-2017, 08:16 PM   #9871
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I'm tossing around replacing my 2 AGM house batteries with 2 Lithium Iron (not Ion) batteries. Much better discharge curve and much lighter weight plus they are sealed so no acid fumes. Downside is expense but upside is long life.
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Old 03-18-2017, 08:29 PM   #9872
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A 2 gallon accumulator will also show benefits when on city water if you are at a campground with fluctuating water pressure. The pressurized water in the accumulator will even out pressure surges and drop outs when the camper next to you is doing his laundry and you are trying to shower.
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Old 03-18-2017, 09:45 PM   #9873
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I am sorry to hear that.
What pressure did you put in the accumulator?

This is the procedure I used to set mine.

Close the shutoff valve leading to the accumulator (important to keep antifreeze out of the tank after the system is drained and before adding "pink" during winterization.)

Using a stop watch, without the accumulator in the system, and with full system pressure on the water pump alone, flush the toilet. The pump should come on almost immediately. Record the time (if you can).

Build a water pressure metering system using the two part links at the end of this post.

Using a 1/2 NPT male to male hose thread adapter and a hose thread water pressure gauge, I replaced my plastic outside shower head with the gauge assembly to measure water pump pressure.

Open the exterior cold water faucet handle all the way.

Turn on the pump and pressurize the system.
Note the pressure when the pump shuts off.

Have someone inside just crack a facet to a drip.

Watch the gauge carefully as the pressure drops and record the pressure that the pump again turns on.

Drain the water out of your system (zero pressure).

Open the accumulator shut off valve (still should be zero pressure) and close the faucet inside the camper.

Add or remove air pressure in the accumulator tank using the Schrader Valve to 2 PSI below the pump "cut in" (turns back on) pressure.

Turn the water pump back on and let it run until the system reaches full system pressure and shuts off. This should take a minute or so since the accumulator needs to fill against the air pressure in the accumulator's bladder.

Go back inside and see how many flushes you get now before the pump kicks in (about 2 gallons of flush water). You should see a measurable difference in time and flushes before the pump kicks in and runs to refill the accumulator.
Looks like I need to check a few things. I'll pick up that pressure gauge tomorrow. The label on the pump shows it cuts off at 55 psi. According to the Sureflo instructions for the accumulator I put 53 psi in the tank.

As it is now, the pump comes on within a second or so of opening any faucet. If I shut the pump power off and then open a faucet I only get less than a second of water flow. It doesn't appear to me that the accumulator is working at all.

I did not install a shut off valve for the accumulator because I never use any of the anti-freeze stuff. Air only.
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I did these on my rv, those not today but these are the latest.

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Old 03-19-2017, 08:11 AM   #9877
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Looks like I need to check a few things. I'll pick up that pressure gauge tomorrow. The label on the pump shows it cuts off at 55 psi. According to the Sureflo instructions for the accumulator I put 53 psi in the tank.
You went the wrong way. You want 2 PSI below the CUT IN (not cut out) pressure.

As it is your accumulator is filled with air and not water. The pressure is so high, it will hardly fill.

Also I see you are using the Shurflo accumulator.
I tried that first and after my very first trip switched to the 2 gallon tank.

There is only about a quart of water in that accumulator. (Good for about one flush).

That works for the first one to the bathroom at 2am, but whoever uses it next wakes everyone up. I sold mine on eBay and bought the 2 gallon job.
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Old 03-19-2017, 08:51 AM   #9878
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You went the wrong way. You want 2 PSI below the CUT IN (not cut out) pressure.

As it is your accumulator is filled with air and not water. The pressure is so high, it will hardly fill.

Also I see you are using the Shurflo accumulator.
I tried that first and after my very first trip switched to the 2 gallon tank.

There is only about a quart of water in that accumulator. (Good for about one flush).

That works for the first one to the bathroom at 2am, but whoever uses it next wakes everyone up. I sold mine on eBay and bought the 2 gallon job.
I'll try lower pressures and see what happens. Going out shortly to get the gauge.

Also, I have a TT so I don't see any way to have a two gallon system....not enough room.
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The tank does not need to be mounted near the pump it can be mounted anywhere in the cold water system like under the kitchen sink. I have a 2 gal tank and it is a blessing at nite not to hear the pump cycle.
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I've never understood it but, honestly, it's never bothered me. But then again- I'm one who can sleep in full sun without issue. Lights just don't bother my sleep.
Lights don't bother me neither. I figured out years ago it's easier to sleep if your eyes are closed.
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