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03-18-2017, 08:45 AM
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#9861
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Left Coast
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: vancouver,washington
Posts: 15,649
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All depends on layout of campground....If there's alot of space or bunched together
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03-18-2017, 10:03 AM
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#9862
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: NC
Posts: 477
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Dewinterized, checked all systems and am getting ready to load camper for our first trip next weekend for a week.
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2005 Ford Excursion 6.0L 2WD
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03-18-2017, 10:16 AM
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#9863
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Member
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: Everywhere, USA
Posts: 84
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Quote:
Originally Posted by A32Deuce
Maybe someone can answer a question for me. All the outside lighting doesn't bother me, party time! But, when you go to bed and no one is outside, is it really necessary to leave it lit up like some houses at Xmas! When its not too hot I like windows open for fresh air, but with some its so bright, you get the picture. I guess I care about disturbing but a lot don't!
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I completely agree with this. Some people are just inconsiderate in general. We have some rope lights we like to run around our perimeter, but we don't even put them out if we're close to another camper.
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03-18-2017, 12:37 PM
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#9864
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 10,833
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Towed our Rockwood to the dealer. Bye bye.
Did PDI on new Heartland Bighorn 3575 Elite
Pick up next week!
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2022 Venture RV SportTrek STT 302 VRB Travel Trailer
2018 Heartland Landmark 365 Louisville 5th Wheel
2015 Heartland Bighorn 5th Wheel
2013 FR Rockwood 8289WS 5th Wheel
2012 FR Rockwood 2703 SS Travel Trailer
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03-18-2017, 01:23 PM
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#9865
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Always Learning
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Four Corners, FL
Posts: 21,891
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Quote:
Originally Posted by A32Deuce
Maybe someone can answer a question for me. All the outside lighting doesn't bother me, party time! But, when you go to bed and no one is outside, is it really necessary to leave it lit up like some houses at Xmas! When its not too hot I like windows open for fresh air, but with some its so bright, you get the picture. I guess I care about disturbing but a lot don't!
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I've never understood it but, honestly, it's never bothered me. But then again- I'm one who can sleep in full sun without issue. Lights just don't bother my sleep.
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03-18-2017, 07:22 PM
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#9866
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Pickin', Campin', Mason
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: South Western PA
Posts: 19,146
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Quote:
Originally Posted by emm-dee
Installed the water system accumulator thingy. I think it's a waste of time and money because I don't see any difference at all.
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Are you comparing it while on city water or using the pump?
You'll see no difference on city water but you should see a big difference when using the pump.
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03-18-2017, 07:38 PM
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#9867
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Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,460
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What did you do to your camper today?
Replaced cheapo plastic faucet on bathroom sink with nice brushed nickel version
installed plexiglass on screen door to have door open while running AC - will paint white inside of door to match camper exterior when it warms up again
Hated the stark white against bronze exterior when doors are left open [emoji13]
Already painted inside of cargo bay door light bronze instead of white against camper exterior [ATTACH]132131
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03-18-2017, 07:50 PM
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#9868
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Site Team - Lou
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: South Eastern PA
Posts: 23,269
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Quote:
Originally Posted by emm-dee
Installed the water system accumulator thingy. I think it's a waste of time and money because I don't see any difference at all.
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I am sorry to hear that.
What pressure did you put in the accumulator?
This is the procedure I used to set mine.
Close the shutoff valve leading to the accumulator (important to keep antifreeze out of the tank after the system is drained and before adding "pink" during winterization.)
Using a stop watch, without the accumulator in the system, and with full system pressure on the water pump alone, flush the toilet. The pump should come on almost immediately. Record the time (if you can).
Build a water pressure metering system using the two part links at the end of this post.
Using a 1/2 NPT male to male hose thread adapter and a hose thread water pressure gauge, I replaced my plastic outside shower head with the gauge assembly to measure water pump pressure.
Open the exterior cold water faucet handle all the way.
Turn on the pump and pressurize the system.
Note the pressure when the pump shuts off.
Have someone inside just crack a facet to a drip.
Watch the gauge carefully as the pressure drops and record the pressure that the pump again turns on.
Drain the water out of your system (zero pressure).
Open the accumulator shut off valve (still should be zero pressure) and close the faucet inside the camper.
Add or remove air pressure in the accumulator tank using the Schrader Valve to 2 PSI below the pump "cut in" (turns back on) pressure.
Turn the water pump back on and let it run until the system reaches full system pressure and shuts off. This should take a minute or so since the accumulator needs to fill against the air pressure in the accumulator's bladder.
Go back inside and see how many flushes you get now before the pump kicks in (about 2 gallons of flush water). You should see a measurable difference in time and flushes before the pump kicks in and runs to refill the accumulator.
Eastman 3/4 in. Brass Water Pressure Test Gauge-45169 - The Home Depot
https://www.amazon.com/Nelson-Indust...to+garden+hose
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2008 GMC Sierra 3000HD Allison Duramax
2019 Flagstaff 8529FL
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03-18-2017, 08:08 PM
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#9869
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: Lilburn, GA
Posts: 112
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Had a little fun with AV:
Installed 2-way Kenwood speakers. Sounds a lot better.
Couldn't find white, wife didn't say anything about it so I guess I'm safe.
Pulled every cable I could from the TV (couple HDMI, Component, audio) to a cabinet. Bought an open box DVD player from Best Buy ($20. Only outputs YPbPr but much better than Composite from the Drive player). Also added a Raspberry Pi.
And loaded RetroPie for rainy days of course
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2016 Chevy Silverado 2500HD Gas
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03-18-2017, 08:13 PM
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#9870
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: SE Michigan
Posts: 2,024
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 5picker
Are you comparing it while on city water or using the pump?
You'll see no difference on city water but you should see a big difference when using the pump.
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+1 on stored water, +0 on city water. It's a small version of what we use in our well systems to keep the pump from constantly cycling. It 'fools' the pump into thinking there is pressure when there isn't.
Should notice a big difference when running on stored water, especially if the pressure in the 'accumulatir' is adjustable. Set the pressure 30 psi to start with if it is adjustable.
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03-18-2017, 08:16 PM
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#9871
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: SE Michigan
Posts: 2,024
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I'm tossing around replacing my 2 AGM house batteries with 2 Lithium Iron (not Ion) batteries. Much better discharge curve and much lighter weight plus they are sealed so no acid fumes. Downside is expense but upside is long life.
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03-18-2017, 08:29 PM
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#9872
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Site Team - Lou
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: South Eastern PA
Posts: 23,269
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A 2 gallon accumulator will also show benefits when on city water if you are at a campground with fluctuating water pressure. The pressurized water in the accumulator will even out pressure surges and drop outs when the camper next to you is doing his laundry and you are trying to shower.
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2008 GMC Sierra 3000HD Allison Duramax
2019 Flagstaff 8529FL
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03-18-2017, 09:45 PM
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#9873
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 4,223
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Herk7769
I am sorry to hear that.
What pressure did you put in the accumulator?
This is the procedure I used to set mine.
Close the shutoff valve leading to the accumulator (important to keep antifreeze out of the tank after the system is drained and before adding "pink" during winterization.)
Using a stop watch, without the accumulator in the system, and with full system pressure on the water pump alone, flush the toilet. The pump should come on almost immediately. Record the time (if you can).
Build a water pressure metering system using the two part links at the end of this post.
Using a 1/2 NPT male to male hose thread adapter and a hose thread water pressure gauge, I replaced my plastic outside shower head with the gauge assembly to measure water pump pressure.
Open the exterior cold water faucet handle all the way.
Turn on the pump and pressurize the system.
Note the pressure when the pump shuts off.
Have someone inside just crack a facet to a drip.
Watch the gauge carefully as the pressure drops and record the pressure that the pump again turns on.
Drain the water out of your system (zero pressure).
Open the accumulator shut off valve (still should be zero pressure) and close the faucet inside the camper.
Add or remove air pressure in the accumulator tank using the Schrader Valve to 2 PSI below the pump "cut in" (turns back on) pressure.
Turn the water pump back on and let it run until the system reaches full system pressure and shuts off. This should take a minute or so since the accumulator needs to fill against the air pressure in the accumulator's bladder.
Go back inside and see how many flushes you get now before the pump kicks in (about 2 gallons of flush water). You should see a measurable difference in time and flushes before the pump kicks in and runs to refill the accumulator.
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Looks like I need to check a few things. I'll pick up that pressure gauge tomorrow. The label on the pump shows it cuts off at 55 psi. According to the Sureflo instructions for the accumulator I put 53 psi in the tank.
As it is now, the pump comes on within a second or so of opening any faucet. If I shut the pump power off and then open a faucet I only get less than a second of water flow. It doesn't appear to me that the accumulator is working at all.
I did not install a shut off valve for the accumulator because I never use any of the anti-freeze stuff. Air only.
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03-18-2017, 10:01 PM
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#9874
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: South Carolina
Posts: 187
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washed it from head to toe.
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2012 Cedar Creek 36B4
2007 Ford F-350 Dually Crew Cab 6.0 Studded
Loving Life
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03-18-2017, 10:37 PM
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#9875
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 522
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I did these on my rv, those not today but these are the latest.
Oxygenic shower head
RVLock
Furrion Backup Camera.
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2018 Dodge Ram 3500 6.7L CTD
2019 Jayco Eagle 321RSTS
Retired Army MSG.
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03-19-2017, 06:19 AM
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#9876
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2014
Posts: 427
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Pulled her out of the storage shed to go do my driving test... now a Non-CDL class A license holder! Hoping tomorrow is warm enough to wash her down... gets very rusty in the shed!
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2016 Coachmen Chapparral 360IBL
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SOLD - 2005 Dodge Ram 2500 4x4 QCLB Cummins
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03-19-2017, 08:11 AM
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#9877
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Site Team - Lou
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: South Eastern PA
Posts: 23,269
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Quote:
Originally Posted by emm-dee
Looks like I need to check a few things. I'll pick up that pressure gauge tomorrow. The label on the pump shows it cuts off at 55 psi. According to the Sureflo instructions for the accumulator I put 53 psi in the tank.
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You went the wrong way. You want 2 PSI below the CUT IN (not cut out) pressure.
As it is your accumulator is filled with air and not water. The pressure is so high, it will hardly fill.
Also I see you are using the Shurflo accumulator.
I tried that first and after my very first trip switched to the 2 gallon tank.
There is only about a quart of water in that accumulator. (Good for about one flush).
That works for the first one to the bathroom at 2am, but whoever uses it next wakes everyone up. I sold mine on eBay and bought the 2 gallon job.
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2008 GMC Sierra 3000HD Allison Duramax
2019 Flagstaff 8529FL
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03-19-2017, 08:51 AM
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#9878
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Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 4,223
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Herk7769
You went the wrong way. You want 2 PSI below the CUT IN (not cut out) pressure.
As it is your accumulator is filled with air and not water. The pressure is so high, it will hardly fill.
Also I see you are using the Shurflo accumulator.
I tried that first and after my very first trip switched to the 2 gallon tank.
There is only about a quart of water in that accumulator. (Good for about one flush).
That works for the first one to the bathroom at 2am, but whoever uses it next wakes everyone up. I sold mine on eBay and bought the 2 gallon job.
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I'll try lower pressures and see what happens. Going out shortly to get the gauge.
Also, I have a TT so I don't see any way to have a two gallon system....not enough room.
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03-19-2017, 09:01 AM
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#9879
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: x
Posts: 12,423
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The tank does not need to be mounted near the pump it can be mounted anywhere in the cold water system like under the kitchen sink. I have a 2 gal tank and it is a blessing at nite not to hear the pump cycle.
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2017 RAM 2500 CC 4X4 Cummins Diesel
2016 Flagstaff 26 FKWS
AF&AM & El Korah Shrine of Idaho
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03-19-2017, 09:12 AM
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#9880
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2007 WildCat 32QBBS
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: NJ
Posts: 2,349
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ependydad
I've never understood it but, honestly, it's never bothered me. But then again- I'm one who can sleep in full sun without issue. Lights just don't bother my sleep.
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Lights don't bother me neither. I figured out years ago it's easier to sleep if your eyes are closed.
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