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Old 06-09-2021, 03:11 PM   #1
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State Park cancellation fees

When I make a reservation I fully intend to use it. But hey, stuff happens so I had to cancel a 2 day stay at Baraga SP and a 3 day stay at Ft. Wilkins SP, both in UP Michigan. I was stunned to find out about their (our) onerous cancellation policy. It seems the longer you hold your reservation the more money they keep. I booked these sites in Dec. 2020 so when I cancelled last week I got back $42.20 of my original $95 payment and $35.60 of my original $84.00 payment. What cancellation policies do other states have? Will Florida's be the same as what it was under Reserve America? (Which was acceptable IMO.)
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Florida State Parks charge $17 for cancelling reservations.
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Old 06-09-2021, 03:58 PM   #3
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So far I've only had to pay no more than the first night if I cancel early enough for state parks.
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Old 06-09-2021, 03:59 PM   #4
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When I make a reservation I fully intend to use it. But hey, stuff happens so I had to cancel a 2 day stay at Baraga SP and a 3 day stay at Ft. Wilkins SP, both in UP Michigan. I was stunned to find out about their (our) onerous cancellation policy. It seems the longer you hold your reservation the more money they keep. I booked these sites in Dec. 2020 so when I cancelled last week I got back $42.20 of my original $95 payment and $35.60 of my original $84.00 payment. What cancellation policies do other states have? Will Florida's be the same as what it was under Reserve America? (Which was acceptable IMO.)
This has been a thing in Michigan for a few years now. They explain it before you book the site officially and I think you have to check a box to acknowledge it.
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Old 06-09-2021, 04:27 PM   #5
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Most of Oregon is first night + $8. I am disabled veteran so I only pay $8 registration fees for Oregon State Parks. I booked 2 nights at one park for $8. Then I decided instead of returning to the same park on my way back from my middle destination, I would stay at a different park 20 miles away, but a lot quieter, so that was $8. So I called Oregon State Parks to cancel the second night of my first reservation to let someone else have it. They wanted to charge me $8. I said never mind, I'll just tell them at the first park when I get there it's only going to be one night, not two.

The park in questioned is nestled on a narrow strip of land between I-84 and the very active Union Pacific Railroad, with a crossing right in the campground. So you get interstate traffic noise from one side and train noise with horns blowing on the other side. The park is only half full according to reservations, so I'm not really affecting anyone by just keeping the spot there reserved for one more night.
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Old 06-09-2021, 06:11 PM   #6
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In Texas, it depends on when you cancel.

"Cancel five days or more before the arrival date:
Penalty = $10 or amount paid (excluding entrance fees), whichever is less
Cancel less than five days from the arrival date:
Penalty = $10 per night with a maximum penalty of $50
Do not cancel and do not show up:
Penalty = forfeiture of the entire amount paid (excluding entrance fees)
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The park near us charges $28 a night.
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Old 06-09-2021, 06:49 PM   #7
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this discussion has come up quite often, but on a different approach: why DON'T reservation Cancellations cost more and give more people a REASON to cancel ahead of time so that others can 'enjoy' the site....

well, as the original poster complains, when you 'tie up' a site for such a long time, you have taken a lot of people out of play that 'may' have decided to stay there, but since it was booked up, your site was not available during that whole period. The campground, or rv park, like ANY business, is LOSING potential business when you ask them to 'reserve' your space, then decide to renege(back out) on that contract.
A contractor you hire to roof your home, whom you've pay a 'reservation' contract downpayment with will probably also charge you a 'cancellation' fee, maybe the WHOLE downpayment. You have asked them to schedule their time, and maybe even other contractors they use, to be at your place for a specific time and timeframe. They've now lost out on potential OTHER customers to fill that time - they can't 'immediately' find customers to now replace that time slot, so they sit at home making NO MONEY.

We can lament that campgrounds are full, and yet there are sites that go 'unused', and yet we 'complain' when we pay a fair 'cancellation' fee simply because we 'changed our minds' about coming. Others wanted that site, and maybe now they've ALSO had to change their plans, or not come at all, since you effectively 'blocked' the site during that whole time.
While the campground 'may' find a replacement, a new reservation, or someone who just 'happens' to show up at the last minute, they are no longer guaranteed the income for that site since you are now not showing.

Some reservation have NO refund, which seems harsh, but the problem with those is that the RV owner now has absolutely NO reason to call and cancel, so the site remains 'empty' while other WISH they could get in. Some reservations have a FULL refund, at least before certain timeframes, which certainly give RV owners the impotence to call and cancel as soon as possible, but those campgrounds and rv parks still have their fair share of no shows, for many various reasons.

There is no 'perfect' system, and if you don't read the fine print, it's easy to have sour grapes when your trip takes a different turn and you feel slighted. Sometimes we luck out, sometimes we pay dearly.
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Old 06-09-2021, 07:39 PM   #8
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In Louisiana, you can change the reservation date for a fee, but if you cancel, you loose the money, whether its a one night deposit or a full payment..
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Old 06-09-2021, 07:50 PM   #9
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When I make a reservation I fully intend to use it. But hey, stuff happens so I had to cancel a 2 day stay at Baraga SP and a 3 day stay at Ft. Wilkins SP, both in UP Michigan. I was stunned to find out about their (our) onerous cancellation policy. It seems the longer you hold your reservation the more money they keep. I booked these sites in Dec. 2020 so when I cancelled last week I got back $42.20 of my original $95 payment and $35.60 of my original $84.00 payment. What cancellation policies do other states have? Will Florida's be the same as what it was under Reserve America? (Which was acceptable IMO.)
So how long before your stay did you cancel? You didn't mention.
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Old 06-09-2021, 07:53 PM   #10
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this discussion has come up quite often, but on a different approach: why DON'T reservation Cancellations cost more and give more people a REASON to cancel ahead of time so that others can 'enjoy' the site....

well, as the original poster complains, when you 'tie up' a site for such a long time, you have taken a lot of people out of play that 'may' have decided to stay there, but since it was booked up, your site was not available during that whole period. The campground, or rv park, like ANY business, is LOSING potential business when you ask them to 'reserve' your space, then decide to renege(back out) on that contract.
A contractor you hire to roof your home, whom you've pay a 'reservation' contract downpayment with will probably also charge you a 'cancellation' fee, maybe the WHOLE downpayment. You have asked them to schedule their time, and maybe even other contractors they use, to be at your place for a specific time and timeframe. They've now lost out on potential OTHER customers to fill that time - they can't 'immediately' find customers to now replace that time slot, so they sit at home making NO MONEY.

We can lament that campgrounds are full, and yet there are sites that go 'unused', and yet we 'complain' when we pay a fair 'cancellation' fee simply because we 'changed our minds' about coming. Others wanted that site, and maybe now they've ALSO had to change their plans, or not come at all, since you effectively 'blocked' the site during that whole time.
While the campground 'may' find a replacement, a new reservation, or someone who just 'happens' to show up at the last minute, they are no longer guaranteed the income for that site since you are now not showing.

Some reservation have NO refund, which seems harsh, but the problem with those is that the RV owner now has absolutely NO reason to call and cancel, so the site remains 'empty' while other WISH they could get in. Some reservations have a FULL refund, at least before certain timeframes, which certainly give RV owners the impotence to call and cancel as soon as possible, but those campgrounds and rv parks still have their fair share of no shows, for many various reasons.

There is no 'perfect' system, and if you don't read the fine print, it's easy to have sour grapes when your trip takes a different turn and you feel slighted. Sometimes we luck out, sometimes we pay dearly.
Yes, I agree.
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Old 06-09-2021, 07:55 PM   #11
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this discussion has come up quite often, but on a different approach: why DON'T reservation Cancellations cost more and give more people a REASON to cancel ahead of time so that others can 'enjoy' the site....

well, as the original poster complains, when you 'tie up' a site for such a long time, you have taken a lot of people out of play that 'may' have decided to stay there, but since it was booked up, your site was not available during that whole period. The campground, or rv park, like ANY business, is LOSING potential business when you ask them to 'reserve' your space, then decide to renege(back out) on that contract.
A contractor you hire to roof your home, whom you've pay a 'reservation' contract downpayment with will probably also charge you a 'cancellation' fee, maybe the WHOLE downpayment. You have asked them to schedule their time, and maybe even other contractors they use, to be at your place for a specific time and timeframe. They've now lost out on potential OTHER customers to fill that time - they can't 'immediately' find customers to now replace that time slot, so they sit at home making NO MONEY.

We can lament that campgrounds are full, and yet there are sites that go 'unused', and yet we 'complain' when we pay a fair 'cancellation' fee simply because we 'changed our minds' about coming. Others wanted that site, and maybe now they've ALSO had to change their plans, or not come at all, since you effectively 'blocked' the site during that whole time.
While the campground 'may' find a replacement, a new reservation, or someone who just 'happens' to show up at the last minute, they are no longer guaranteed the income for that site since you are now not showing.

Some reservation have NO refund, which seems harsh, but the problem with those is that the RV owner now has absolutely NO reason to call and cancel, so the site remains 'empty' while other WISH they could get in. Some reservations have a FULL refund, at least before certain timeframes, which certainly give RV owners the impotence to call and cancel as soon as possible, but those campgrounds and rv parks still have their fair share of no shows, for many various reasons.

There is no 'perfect' system, and if you don't read the fine print, it's easy to have sour grapes when your trip takes a different turn and you feel slighted. Sometimes we luck out, sometimes we pay dearly.
I agree with everything you said. Too many cancel for a bad forecast! 4th of July 3 years ago my Mom passed away. Got the call.as.I was hooking the camper. Lost two nights of the 3 night stay. Did not have a issue with the charge at all. Camping is a business or revenue maker.
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Old 06-11-2021, 04:37 AM   #12
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When SC dumped Reserve America they not only almost doubled their rates but the cancellation policy can get brutal. Read before you book is my advice.
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Old 06-11-2021, 11:23 AM   #13
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I think pa is if u canceled b4 2 days it is 10 dollars and if u cancelled at the last minute . its one day fee
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Old 06-11-2021, 11:51 AM   #14
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If you cancel a reservation, a cancellation fee of $7.99 will be assessed per reservation.

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FULL CANCEL POLICY: The $7.99 reservation fee is non-refundable.
• If you cancel a reservation, a cancellation fee of $7.99 will be assessed per reservation.
• Cancellations can be done online or by calling the Contact Center.
• If you cancel your reservation after 6pm the day before your arrival, the first night’s fee is forfeited.
• EARLY OUT POLICY: Customers will forfeit their $7.99 reservation fee and a $7.99 cancellation fee will be
deducted from any refund you may be due. If you must leave the park one or more days early, you must check out before 12:00 NOON.
• NO SHOW POLICY: A campsite will be held for you until 12:00 NOON the day after your arrival date. If you have not called the park before that time, you will be considered a “no show” and the park will cancel your reservation. Customer will forfeit their $7.99 reservation fee, $7.99 cancellation fee and first night use fee.
• If you miss your first day but plan to arrive later, you must call the park each day to hold the remainder of your reservation.
• For cabin and other alternative camping, please check the park specific cancellation policies on ReserveCalifornia’s website under Alerts and Important Information, Site Alerts, and confirmation letter.
Cancellation policies vary from park to park. Cabin reservation holders will forfeit the first night fees when cancelling 6 or fewer days prior to arrival.
• Modified and cancelled inventory will not be immediately released as available. Modified and cancelled inventory will be released at 8am PT the following day.
• MODIFICATION POLICY: If you need to change your arrival/departure date and/or site, you must call out
Customer Call Center by 6 p.m. PST the day before your arrival date. Visitors will be charged a $7.99 modification fee per reserved campsite for change in dates, sites, parks, extending or shortening stay requests. If you must leave the park one or more days early, you must check out before 12:00 NOON. Two Modifications may be made to an existing reservation with the exception of Crystal Cove Cottages. No modifications will be accepted for Crystal Cove Cottages. Retain your camping confirmation letter until you have received your refund. Allow at least 30 days for processing of refunds.
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Old 06-11-2021, 12:41 PM   #15
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Alaska State Parks have no reservation system for campsites (first come, first serve). Only cabins, yurts and group facilities are by reservations which are controlled by third parties such as Reserve America. From what I've heard, the closer you get to your actual reservation and cancel, the more the cancellation fee is.
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In Louisiana, you can change the reservation date for a fee, but if you cancel, you loose the money, whether its a one night deposit or a full payment..
Which is precisely why, when I make a reservation at one of our state parks I pay only ONE nights stay as a deposit, and the rest upon arrival.

Also, seniors With the Federal Senior Pass here get a 2 for 1 so we usually book 4 days, pay for one at the time of the reservation and only have 1 more n9ghtto pay for upon arrval.
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So how long before your stay did you cancel? You didn't mention.
It was 2 weeks before arrival at Baraga and 16 days before arrival at Fort Wilkins. I'm not complaining about the policy. I'm sure I checked the acknowledgement thing without even reading it because at the time I saw no reason we would cancel. I was just surprised at the costs and wondered if other states were like this. I also had to cancel our reservation at Kohler-Andrae in Wisconsin (3 weeks ahead of time) and got $115 back out of the $127.75 I paid. I hope WIS doesn't talk to MICH!
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NJ bangs you $40 resident, $50 non-resident, plus the $5 transaction fee paid to make reservation from whatever refund you are due.
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A pal of mine gets so mad when the parks refuse to put a site back in reservation system when someone no-shows. If you don't cancel, it stays booked and nobody can use the site, even though nobody is there. So you go camping and see all these really great sites, that you can't book because somebody no-showed and doesn't care about getting a refund. I agree this is BS. If you don't show up to check in, and don't call to say your are cancelling, or confirm you are still coming, the site should be up for grabs. This is a flawed reservation policy in NJ.
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Florida State Parks charge $17 for cancelling reservations.
Plus you lose the reservation fee paid to the reservation system web site host. There are additional conditions, all of which seem reasonable to me.
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