The only bad experience was at Kerr Lake, NC. The lot was listed as level. We had to raise the rear of the trailer 4 inches (all of our leveling plates) and then dig a 6" deep "V" for the tongue to sit in. The tongue jack in it's lowest (highest, depending on perspective) position. Other than that, love the Surveyor. Considering an upgrade to a 2014 with bunks and outdoor kitchen. Try roughing it a bit.