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11-23-2021, 10:58 AM
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Hey everyone!
Just wanted to say hello to everyone.
My wife and I are picking up our Cedar Creek 345IK Dec 3rd! We are super excited!
We're not new to camping, but this will be our first fifth wheel. No more bumper pull!
Any advice would be welcome!
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11-23-2021, 11:04 AM
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Welcome to the forum its a great place to get your questions answered. do some driveway or dealer camping to test everything before your first adventure you are experienced you know what to check. good luck with the new rig
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11-23-2021, 11:11 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SeaDog
Welcome to the forum its a great place to get your questions answered. do some driveway or dealer camping to test everything before your first adventure you are experienced you know what to check. good luck with the new rig
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We have about an eleven hour drive to get there so our first experience with it will be on our way home with it.
I've never heard of dealer camping; is that in their parking lot? Isnt that what walmart is for?
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11-23-2021, 11:22 AM
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Some dealers like where I bought my rig at RVR do have spots just for that and when you are having work done. good luck
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11-23-2021, 11:22 AM
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Location: South Western PA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Denbar
We have about an eleven hour drive to get there so our first experience with it will be on our way home with it.
I've never heard of dealer camping; is that in their parking lot? Isnt that what walmart is for?
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Dealer camping is recommend to spend a night or two in your new unit BEFORE you get started on the 11 hour journey home in case there are issues or something you don't understand.
It is better to get that stuff all sorted out BEFORE you leave the dealer's area than trying to arrange for warranty repairs afterwards.
Even a campground within a few miles of the dealer would be better than busting out right away for home.
Even things like hitch placement and rail height are things you'll need to have right before heading home.
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F&AM Lodge 358 Somerset, PA - JAFFA Shrine - Altoona, PA
Days Camped ☼ '19=118 ☼ '20=116 ☼ '21=123 ☼ '22=134 ☼ '23=118☼ '24=101
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11-23-2021, 12:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SeaDog
Some dealers like where I bought my rig at RVR do have spots just for that and when you are having work done. good luck
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I learned something!
How do you like that cummings? I looked at one when I was truck shopping but settled for an F250.
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11-23-2021, 01:20 PM
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My F350 with the 6.0 rode like a luxury car but was helpless in the snow without 500 lbs of sand in the back. The Ram rides more like a truck but the cummins pulls much stronger at lower RPM and the fuel MPH is better it is much better in the snow without sand in the back I very much like it.
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11-23-2021, 01:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SeaDog
My F350 with the 6.0 rode like a luxury car but was helpless in the snow without 500 lbs of sand in the back. The Ram rides more like a truck but the cummins pulls much stronger at lower RPM and the fuel MPH is better it is much better in the snow without sand in the back I very much like it.
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My son has an F250 with the 6.0. I t is a money pit. Of course, to be fair, it was wore out and "bullet proofed" when he got it. Needless to say, it doesn't run.
I've heard the cummings were more economical to run than the Fords. If mine didn't have the regen, it would do much better. You can literally watch the MPG's fall when it starts regening. I usually get around 11 to 12 mpg with the Jayco we have now. I'm hoping it stays about the same for the fifth wheel. I've seen where some people claimed to get better with a fifth wheel vs a TT. It seems hard to believe though.
The Ram I looked at was a 3500 CC. It was a nice truck and I considered buying it, but someone apparently bought it while I was test driving it.
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11-23-2021, 03:41 PM
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I do believe that is true it seems folks I talk to do get better MPG with a 5th wheel.
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11-23-2021, 10:23 PM
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My experience was different my MPG went down. My first trailer was a bumper pull. I pulled it with 4 different trucks a 2011 Ram 2500 CTD 2WD averaged 10mpg 2014 Tundra Limited 2WD basically 7.9 mpg towed over 5k to include almost every western mountain range 2014 F150 Platinum 4x4 7.6 mpg ( only two or 3 trips) 2016 F 350 xlt power stroke bought this because the wife decided she wanted a 5th wheel towed the bumper pull at 10.6 mpg on the few we took before we upgraded to a 5th wheel. Averaged 9 mpg which was almost 2mpg less. That said 5th wheel almost 4K heavier fully loaded 6’ longer and almost 2’ taller. So basically a bigger and heavier brick
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11-23-2021, 11:06 PM
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Senior Member
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Denbar
We have about an eleven hour drive to get there so our first experience with it will be on our way home with it.
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You might consider staying overnight somewhere local before starting home.
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11-24-2021, 06:58 AM
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Senior Member
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Welcome denbar to this. Like myself i was suppose to pick up my 1st 5'er yesterday but dealer problems. So Friday it is for me. I can't wait. use to have a 2000 Itasca DP. So it's a different style coming up for me. Cos i have a Titan XD had to have them instal an Anderson 5th wheel hook up. slightly different. Got the Cummings 5.0, I had pulled a boat for a friend 3500 lb boat, got around 10 MPG. dieing to find out what pulling 5'er going to get.
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11-24-2021, 09:46 AM
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Welcome to the board!
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12-02-2021, 03:45 PM
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Are you picking yours up tomorrow?
We’re own our way to get ours tomorrow. Well, if we ever make it through Atlanta.
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12-02-2021, 03:46 PM
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Thx!
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12-02-2021, 04:25 PM
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Well didn't go as planned. Ended up week after that. Dealer didn't do anything suppose to do. Then had for Tues pick up nope ended up wed we got it. What a fiasco. Then on top of that it's season it fla an all campgrounds within 75 mile radius booked solid.
Someday I get back to camping.
So how's it going for you lol
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12-02-2021, 06:35 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wildmanabe
Well didn't go as planned. Ended up week after that. Dealer didn't do anything suppose to do. Then had for Tues pick up nope ended up wed we got it. What a fiasco. Then on top of that it's season it fla an all campgrounds within 75 mile radius booked solid.
Someday I get back to camping.
So how's it going for you lol
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So far so good. We’re picking it up tomorrow. Hopefully all goes well after driving 725 miles one way. We’re getting ours from Couch’s RV nation in Ohio.
What part of Florida? We live in South Georgia almost on the fl line.
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12-02-2021, 06:37 PM
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Senior Member
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I'm on pine island west of cape coral. Near ft myers.
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12-06-2021, 01:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wildmanabe
I'm on pine island west of cape coral. Near ft myers.
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Sounds like you need some pontoons for your camper! How cool would that be?
We live in Valdosta GA. We're about 15 miles from the FL line.
Well we survived picking up the 5th wheel. Traffic was a nightmare!
It pulled really good. Much much better than a bumper pull.
MPG's are pretty close to what the travel trailer is. 55/60 is around 12, maybe a little over. At 70mph, 10.3, which is what I get with the TT.
For the life of me I can't understand how. With the 5th wheel being so much larger, I really expected much worse. I certainly didn't expect comparable numbers.
Aerodynamics maybe?
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12-06-2021, 02:39 PM
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Senior Member
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Hey my friend, glad yours went ok. i got mine but still dealing with the dealership to make repairs. 5th wheel i got about 3mp less than what i usually get. not bad. 5th has wt on bed rather that a pull wt. should be better. As long as don't exceed bed wt.
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