Wife and I bought a new Cedar Creek Silverback Edition 29RE in Tucson about 2 weeks ago. Traded in our 2010 Bighorn. This is about 3 feet shorter than the Bighorn and about 600 pounds lighter. We use it with a 16k Reese Goosebox pin box and it pulls like it is not back there. It doesn't even have the bucking I have heard about from the fifth wheel hitch.