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Old 04-18-2014, 08:29 AM   #1
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3001W Rocking and Roll'n!

We've noticed a lot of movement with our new 3001W Windjammer (35ft) even with the stabilizers down. Seems like "bounce", but could actually be front to back movement IMO. How many of you have experienced this and did the addition of something like the BAL X-Chocks cure the problem? We came from a 25ft trailer and it was rock solid with the stabs down. I'll spring for the X Chocks if sure it will cure the problem. The constant movement when walking about the trailer is driving the wife crazy! TIA
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Old 04-18-2014, 08:31 AM   #2
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Yeah, mine doesn't like it either. Unless she is the one doing it

Bal may be able to help some.

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Old 04-18-2014, 08:45 AM   #3
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Welcome to the (Bounce Club)! Do a search on here,stabilization has been discussed Many times! Support from (Frame to Ground) just like any foundation. Long frames sitting on rubber tires and suspension = Bounce!! Youroo!!
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Buy a set of four, place one in front of the front axle on both sides then put one on each side behind the rear axle.

Raise them enough to put good pressure on them but not enough to lift the trailer.


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Old 04-18-2014, 09:32 AM   #5
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I have a 42ft 5th wheel and have the steadyfast stabelizers and they were a big waste of time and money. The manufacture wants me to get rid of my electric jacks in the back and put the sissor jacks. I think if I had it to do over again I would just put sissor jacks on.
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Old 04-18-2014, 11:38 AM   #6
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Buy a set of four, place one in front of the front axle on both sides then put one on each side behind the rear axle.

Raise them enough to put good pressure on them but not enough to lift the trailer.


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That would probably work too, but I think the X-Chocks would would work better on the fore and aft movement. Just looking for X-Chock users and their input as to whether this is the answer. I'll spring for 'em if I know they're gonna work.
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Old 04-18-2014, 11:46 AM   #7
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We all have the same issues with our Windjammers. With our 3008W, we have found the X-chocks somewhat helpful, although to be honest, the movement really doesn't bother me enough when it is just me and my wife to justify the effort on short stays unless the DW complains. Another thing which I've found somewhat helpful is stacking a couple of 6" x 6" lumber blocks under each of the four corner stabilizers to prevent having to extend them too far (i.e., too upright), and then revisiting the four stabilizers on the morning of Day #2 to snug them up in case the blocks have settled into to the ground at all. In the end, I think there is just a fair amount of "bounce" which is unavoidable in these units.
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Old 04-18-2014, 12:02 PM   #8
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I have the X-Chocks and my camper is 34' from tip to tail. I would say they will not solve your issue. It will HELP some. As other have said it is from the bounce. The distance between stabilizers with just your suspension and tires sitting in between. I added the scissor jacks like were suggested above and it made a world of difference. I vote for BOTH. Happy Camping.
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Old 04-18-2014, 12:17 PM   #9
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Thanks for the info folks, it was very helpful.
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Old 04-18-2014, 01:46 PM   #10
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most trailer owners find using tandem wheel chocks, whether X-chocks or Rotochoks or homemade one like mine, find that most of the movement is eliminated. of course, along with using the stabilzers.

a few decide to add other aftermarket items like the Steadyfast ones.
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Old 04-18-2014, 02:13 PM   #11
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With the assistance and good will from Herk and youroo, I modified a set of electric stab jacks, installed them in front of the axle on the 2 x 4 tube in addition to the homemade JT Strongarm type stabilizers front and back, Bal X chocks and a step support and have just about totally eliminated movement of any kind. BTW, I extend the rear stabs as far as possible to get the reinforced legs as close to vertical as possible. The legs are very weak when they are close to horizontal.
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Old 04-19-2014, 06:06 AM   #12
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Hey OC...

You stated: "BTW, I extend the rear stabs as far as possible to get the reinforced legs as close to vertical as possible. The legs are very weak when they are close to horizontal."

Caught my eye since, as described above, I do the opposite. However, my stabilizer jacks are scissor jacks. I believe yours are another style. Just to be clear, you are not suggesting that it is beneficial to extend scissor jacks as far as possible, are you? (I'm not even sure what kind of jacks the OP has, but am concerned about sending mixed messages.)
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Vern,we have the (Elect. Lippert Stab Type) are yours manual? Youroo!!
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You stated: "BTW, I extend the rear stabs as far as possible to get the reinforced legs as close to vertical as possible. The legs are very weak when they are close to horizontal."

Caught my eye since, as described above, I do the opposite. However, my stabilizer jacks are scissor jacks. I believe yours are another style. Just to be clear, you are not suggesting that it is beneficial to extend scissor jacks as far as possible, are you? (I'm not even sure what kind of jacks the OP has, but am concerned about sending mixed messages.)
Vern, if you have scissor jacks, you are correct, my mistake for thinking you had the Lippert stab jacks. BIG difference. You are correct on the scissor jacks being better the less they are extended.
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Vern,we have the (Elect. Lippert Stab Type) are yours manual? Youroo!!
Yes, although I cheat with my 18v cordless drill. I guess that makes me BOTH cheap AND lazy!
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Yes, although I cheat with my 18v cordless drill. I guess that makes me BOTH cheap AND lazy!
Nope,I have scissor manual jacks in front of the axle also,and use cordless on those. Youroo!!
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Yes, although I cheat with my 18v cordless drill. I guess that makes me BOTH cheap AND lazy!
I had the scissor jacks mounted to the 2 x 4 tube in front of the axle and also used a cordless until Herk traded me his bent Lippert and then youroo informed me @ Goshen about his Lippert jacks they were replacing and I ended up with a working set I modified. Really like them.
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Ron3rd,
Check out this thread.
http://www.forestriverforums.com/for...ion-28801.html
We use to have a 3001W and the slide out supports were the only thing I found that helped with that model. Please read the whole thread as there are some things to considerer when using those supports.
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So, Russ...

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Ron3rd,
Check out this thread.
http://www.forestriverforums.com/for...ion-28801.html
We use to have a 3001W and the slide out supports were the only thing I found that helped with that model. Please read the whole thread as there are some things to considerer when using those supports.
Are you still using both the slide out supports AND the pyramid jacks, as you described in your 10-06-2012 post on the thread you linked to above, or just the slide out supports? (Don't suppose you have any pictures of the setup on which you have settled?)
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I did use the slide out supports, but only if we were staying more than 4 days. It was a PITA to set up all that stuff every time... The shorter the stay the less "stuff" I used... But I only used the slide supports with the pyramid jacks in place and only needed them on the bigger slide...

Traded the Windjammer this spring on a 5th wheel, with Level-up 6 point automatic system. It is the BOMB, btw....
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