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04-16-2021, 09:12 PM
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has anyone cut in outdoor speakers?
Any tips/tricks? plan is to measure and cut behind microwave and fridge, run wiring through cabinets to head unit mounted at door. was going to cut inside panel first in case theres wiring or a framing member i can adjust without ruining the siding
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04-17-2021, 10:16 AM
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You haven't indicated what type of rig you are planning on doing this to or what the outside skin is composed of. If its tin I would use a nibbler if cutting into fiberglass style I would make sure the area being cut is first taped and the pattern transferred to the tape and then cut to prevent chipping.
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04-19-2021, 10:22 AM
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I would picture the process being similar to what RMA did on his door that you saw. Found this link that may give you some ideas: https://caravan.hemax.com/Reviews/35...ernal_speakers
Be sure to collect pictures of your process to share.
Have fun.
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04-19-2021, 10:33 AM
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I replaced the one lousy outdoor speaker on my smooth side TT with a Garmin Fusion speaker panel. You can buy a spacer for it that allows for surface mounting, so no cutting was necessary at all, I just used existing speaker wire path for wiring to head unit. Huge difference in sound quality, like night and day. Even at low volume, so much more bass and better sound quality. The OEM speaker was the cheapest crap all weather Furrion speaker available.
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04-19-2021, 11:55 AM
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Sorry about leaving out the details - its an aluminum siding model 178bhsk. I am using a brand new 5” hole saw to cut in the speakers. I just dont want to hit framing and the depth of the speakers will need cutting all the way through so i will be cutting the inside first so I dont ruin a siding panel. My fridge is 12v only so easy to slide out and get behind. Also behind the microwave/silverware drawer is easy to get to inside. I want to make 100% sure i dont hit something from the outside and have to replace siding.
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04-19-2021, 12:33 PM
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Hopefully, the center mandrel of the hole saw will be hitting something solid, not just spinning through the aluminum sheet metal.
Not that it can't be done that way, but it will be an adventure!
Rich
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04-19-2021, 01:10 PM
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04-19-2021, 02:56 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rollscanardly
Hopefully, the center mandrel of the hole saw will be hitting something solid, not just spinning through the aluminum sheet metal.
Not that it can't be done that way, but it will be an adventure!
Rich
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not sure what you mean here, I'm in commercial construction so not my first rodeo with a hole saw by any means, just worried about the unknowns between the interior panel, insulation (?) and exterior paneling. Not 100% sure how they construct these
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04-19-2021, 03:01 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NJKris
I replaced the one lousy outdoor speaker on my smooth side TT with a Garmin Fusion speaker panel. You can buy a spacer for it that allows for surface mounting, so no cutting was necessary at all, I just used existing speaker wire path for wiring to head unit. Huge difference in sound quality, like night and day. Even at low volume, so much more bass and better sound quality. The OEM speaker was the cheapest crap all weather Furrion speaker available.
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these are the ones i went with (incl the LED controller):
Kicker Marine 6.5's
With this head unit - i know specs are relative but they listed the highest wattage per channel which i guess anyone could do:
Boss MECH-LESS Multimedia Player
I may cut in some RCA ports to run back to it so when the TV is mounted outside i can use the speakers rather than the TV speakers
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04-19-2021, 03:17 PM
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I just installed a baggage door into the side of my 2014 Shamrock... an inch thick piece of Styrofoam sandwiched between two thin pieces of luan plywood...
read about it here...
https://www.forestriverforums.com/fo...ss-228807.html
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04-19-2021, 03:25 PM
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i did read this.....so no framing? I find that hard to believe - did you use a stud finder or something and avoid them? Or did you just cut through them?
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04-19-2021, 03:27 PM
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(vertical framing i mean)
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04-19-2021, 03:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jcrevs
these are the ones i went with (incl the LED controller):
Kicker Marine 6.5's
With this head unit - i know specs are relative but they listed the highest wattage per channel which i guess anyone could do:
Boss MECH-LESS Multimedia Player
I may cut in some RCA ports to run back to it so when the TV is mounted outside i can use the speakers rather than the TV speakers
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Anything will be an improvement over the OEM. They put a Furrion radio in mine, that IS NOT EVEN STEREO! I didn't think you could even BUY a non-stereo head unit!
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04-19-2021, 03:32 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NJKris
Anything will be an improvement over the OEM. They put a Furrion radio in mine, that IS NOT EVEN STEREO! I didn't think you could even BUY a non-stereo head unit!
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04-19-2021, 03:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jcrevs
not sure what you mean here, I'm in commercial construction so not my first rodeo with a hole saw by any means, just worried about the unknowns between the interior panel, insulation (?) and exterior paneling. Not 100% sure how they construct these
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All I meant was that the hole saw needs the center drill ( mandrel) to stabilize the saw.
So, it's recommended that the mandrel has something of moderate thickness to bite into.
Just drilling into the thin aluminum skin will result in the mandrel wallowing in that center hole, and the saw jumping around.
So...just hang on tight!
Rich
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04-19-2021, 03:38 PM
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i did read this.....so no framing? I find that hard to believe - did you use a stud finder or something and avoid them? Or did you just cut through them?
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I suspect there is vertical framing somewhere... but not where I cut. This is my second baggage door mod... the first went into the rear and no vertical framing yet. That wall stuff is tough, as it is bonded together in an aluminum frame... fiberglass, plywood, foam, plywood all vacuum bonded together.
I suggest you drill some 1/8" holes an inch apart to determine if you hit something... just a small hole to patch if you do hit a stud...
good luck...
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04-19-2021, 08:30 PM
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Probably "non-stereo because the speakers are mis-wired.
My next project is to pull radio, disconnect wires, isolate wires for speakers, then reconnect properly.
Quote:
Originally Posted by NJKris
Anything will be an improvement over the OEM. They put a Furrion radio in mine, that IS NOT EVEN STEREO! I didn't think you could even BUY a non-stereo head unit!
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04-19-2021, 08:37 PM
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Mike, I completely pulled the ONE outdoor speaker the trailer came with and put on the sound board (incorporates both left and right channels). All the wiring was there, but later I found out the Furrion head unit is MONO, not stereo. It is the DV7200
2-Zone Mono Entertainment System
I guess whoever sources AV stuff for Forest River doesn't know that STEREO is all the rage with the kids these days.... And that is the UPGRADE I got from Forest River when I complained about the DV7100 teh camper came with, which was not even dual zone. (you had to use the balance control to switch from inside speakers to outside speaker).
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04-19-2021, 09:30 PM
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Before you decide on cutting anything or drilling through anything, take a good close look at wireless technology and what it can do. I have a Viozio 5.1 system that I can move anywhere I desire within 30 feet from the trailer and get FULL 5.1 THEATER SOUND... the Bass line can be felt in your thoracic cavity!! So many options... if you just take the time to LOOK !!!!
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04-19-2021, 11:32 PM
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Putting holes in like that can cause big leaks. You could mount speakers under your trailer. Like these.
https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B000A5S9...AT5XWEZQ?psc=1
Or go the Bluetooth portable speaker route.
I built my own Bluetooth speaker 50w x2 plus 100w to sub in the middle.
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