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Old 05-08-2017, 10:44 AM   #201
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Looking good.
Thanks, Crunchman...I did have a beer(s) after I was done!

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What is commonly done (but don't know if it was done on your trailer) is to cut "Ducts" into the Styrofoam in the roof or attic area. If your roof area doesn't have Styrofoam with ducts cut into it, ductwork may be fashioned somehow in the roof area. These 'ducts' in the roof will lead to a vent in the ceiling somewhere else in the camper. Do you have any ceiling ducts that could have, at one time, been hooked up to the 'duct work'?
There are no ceiling ducts or styrofoam. As a matter of fact, all the openings that were blocked off by the PO have fiberglass insulation in them....but not enough of it to prevent the cool air from going into the voids.

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Rich:

Here's the manual for your AC unit. Hope it helps.

I did a quick run through it, and one of the pics makes it look like the opening in the ceiling was supposed to have been boxed in, but it isn't. Also, item #4 at the bottom of page 5 says:

The opening created must be framed to provide
adequate support and prevent air from being drawn
from the roof cavity.
Doesn't look completely boxed in, to me. That nice, warm roof cavity air was getting right in! The factory workmanship sux!!

Thank you very much for the AC manual. I will save that, for sure!

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Great work on this. Your trade skills are many. I will get in with the others to watch and applaud your progress.
Learning as I go.....thanks!

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Old 05-08-2017, 10:55 AM   #202
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While I was working on the camper (Sunday), a guy stopped by. He introduced himself, and explained that he sees me out there working on this thing for months, now.

He told me that he has a Winnebago MH that he bought brand new in 2004.

A year later, a water leak developed at the front window. He took it back to the dealership to be repaired. Apparently, they didn't do a good job.

He noticed some waviness of the sidewalls and decided to tear into it, a bit. He peeled back some of the sidewall, and had soaking wet wood.

After letting it dry out for a month, it was still dripping wet.

So, he's afraid to tell the dealership, fearing that they will not honor it, because he "opened it up". On the other hand it was also repaired a long time ago.

His DW suggested selling it, as is. But, because he feels that he will get pennies on the dollar for it if he sells it, he's thinking about attempting to fix it.

He's never attempted anything like this before.

I wished him luck........

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While I was working on the camper (Sunday), a guy stopped by. He introduced himself, and explained that he sees me out there working on this thing for months, now.

He told me that he has a Winnebago MH that he bought brand new in 2004.

A year later, a water leak developed at the front window. He took it back to the dealership to be repaired. Apparently, they didn't do a good job.

He noticed some waviness of the sidewalls and decided to tear into it, a bit. He peeled back some of the sidewall, and had soaking wet wood.

After letting it dry out for a month, it was still dripping wet.

So, he's afraid to tell the dealership, fearing that they will not honor it, because he "opened it up". On the other hand it was also repaired a long time ago.

His DW suggested selling it, as is. But, because he feels that he will get pennies on the dollar for it if he sells it, he's thinking about attempting to fix it.

He's never attempted anything like this before.

I wished him luck........

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Old 05-08-2017, 03:59 PM   #204
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He has a good mentor in you, close by for tips and tricks.
I'll help with advice, based only on my own experiences.

But... I'll say it now... after this project is finished,I will never do any type of structural repairs on a camper, ever again.

Amen.

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P.S. He also said that his MH spends every winter stored indoors.

Imagine if it wasn't??......
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If you see the workmanship in new ones you may change your mind!!!
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Old 05-09-2017, 03:44 AM   #206
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If you see the workmanship in new ones you may change your mind!!!
I couldn't imagine having to do repair work, even a portion of what I'm doing to ours, on a new or several year-old RV.

Hey...mine is almost 20 years old, and wasn't maintained as it should have been. I bought it cheap. So...I decided to repair it. But...I could have scrapped it, and cut my losses very easily.

BUT...to spend a decent amount of money ( a LOT of money in some cases) and to need major repairs soon after purchasing, is unacceptable.

If one RV in a thousand is bad...I get it. Like a car that is a lemon. But to the extent that I've read about on this forum is insane!

The RV industry, and the way they just "bang them out", and with the popularity of RV's must be VERY lucrative!

These RV's are beautiful on the surface, but beneath that surface, there's a lot of "hack-work" in there.

It's a shame...

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Old 05-24-2017, 02:20 PM   #207
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Hey Rich, any updates? Been following this thread and love to see the progress.
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Old 05-24-2017, 04:37 PM   #208
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Hey Rich, any updates? Been following this thread and love to see the progress.
A little progress....

I cleaned up the old vent louver to re-install...



Butyl tape...



Cleaned up the old goo...







Installed, and sealed with Geocel clear sealant...



...more to come...
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Old 05-24-2017, 05:14 PM   #209
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The cable cover is going to be replaced, so I took off the old crappy end to install a new end...





New one...





Installed and sealed...



...more to come...
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Old 05-24-2017, 05:33 PM   #210
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This cover is next...









I decided to clean this up, and keep it...



The rubber thingy is shot...



Cleaned it up...



and replaced this...





...more to come...
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Old 05-24-2017, 05:49 PM   #211
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I also decided to tackle a task that I was dreading...removing the dried-on tape glue. This was from when I had to tape plastic sheeting over the camper at the end of every workday.

No more plastic needed, thankfully.

The glue...



and off....



I also cleaned the old goop off of other areas, too...like where the new fender flare will go, and the opening of the water heater access panel...







Much better...





These little bug screens were installed...



I also sealed up the rear window, which only had the new butyl tape as a barrier. It now has a second layer of protection...clear Geocel sealant.

So...it was a bunch of little stuff, but it all adds up!!

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Good job. Keep us posted.
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All the little things add up. You're getting there and we cheer you on. I did some of these very same item replacements recently. The stove vent has a flapper that doesn't like to be open when you're going 60mph. Brand new assembly - lost the flapper the other day. Readily available online, new one is on my desk, waiting for replacement again.

Keep up the god work.
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All the little things add up. You're getting there and we cheer you on. I did some of these very same item replacements recently. The stove vent has a flapper that doesn't like to be open when you're going 60mph. Brand new assembly - lost the flapper the other day. Readily available online, new one is on my desk, waiting for replacement again.

Keep up the god work.
Thanks for the words of encouragement!

JJaxon...I didn't notice a flapper on the stove vent....should there be one, that I might have "lost"??

Does it flap (shut) so that wind doesn't blow into the camper??

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Thanks for the words of encouragement!

JJaxon...I didn't notice a flapper on the stove vent....should there be one, that I might have "lost"??

Does it flap (shut) so that wind doesn't blow into the camper??

Rich


Yes the flap is retained by two swing handles which over lap the door in motion. Otherwise the first 53 foot trailer will Vacuum it right off. You might get pressure, but you'll always have negative pressure. If you're door wasn't secured it's long gone.
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Yes the flap is retained by two swing handles which over lap the door in motion. Otherwise the first 53 foot trailer will Vacuum it right off. You might get pressure, but you'll always have negative pressure. If you're door wasn't secured it's long gone.
So, where exactly does this flap attach to...the end of the duct, behind the vent louver?

On post #208, pic 5, you can see the open end of the duct. Does the flap attach there?

If so, and if it got disconnected at some point in time, it would have to have dropped down behind the exterior sheet metal. I'm surprised that I didn't see it when I had that side peeled back....

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Yes the vent termination comes complete with flap, the two dogs and enough duct to reach inside the coach. The inside "back wall" is wide enough to accommodate the flap with overlap and the locking dogs. No gasket, is used. The assembly inserts through the wall, set in sealant and typically secured with SS screws. Easy to find new, the white plastic deteriorates quickly.
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So, where exactly does this flap attach to...the end of the duct, behind the vent louver?


If so, and if it got disconnected at some point in time, it would have to have dropped down behind the exterior sheet metal. I'm surprised that I didn't see it when I had that side peeled back....

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Since I've seen pos and neg pressures passing a truck, yours probably took flight like a disconnected airplane wing
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Pic #6 in post 208 shows your vent cover with fixed louvers. I guess they didn't use the ones with the moving flap when it was built.
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Pic #6 in post 208 shows your vent cover with fixed louvers. I guess they didn't use the ones with the moving flap when it was built.
That's what I'm thinking.

This must be the other style...

https://www.etrailer.com/RV-Vents-an.../V2111-13.html

If I had known, I would have bought one of these. Oh, well....

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