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10-26-2020, 12:56 PM
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Max Air Fan reversal
Howdy FR Crew! We have the dual Max Air fans in our Rockwood Mini-Lite. They are not the upgraded model that can reverse. I want to have the fan over the bed to blow down, not up, and the one in the bathroom to suck the air out. Hence, if I can reverse the fan in the bedroom, I can help move a lot of air on stuffy warm days. I read that this can be done by swapping the wires on the motor. Anyone done this?
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10-26-2020, 01:20 PM
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Pickin', Campin', Mason
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I've not done it on your particular model but on some older crank up vent motors I did.
DC motors will certainly reverse if the leads are swapped. Look at power window motors, awning motors, slide motors, etc... all reversed by swapping the leads. (done with a switch in those cases)
One thing to keep in mind... the roof of a R/V sitting in the sun can get awfully hot... are you sure you want to suck that hot air IN the vent? You'd be better off opening a window and let BOTH ceiling fans pull air INTO the R/V from below.
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10-26-2020, 03:49 PM
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10-26-2020, 04:10 PM
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Site Team
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Grab a DPDT rocker switch on Ebay.
About 6 bucks incl shipping.
You'd need to cut a rectangular hole in your trim.
A nice DIY upgrade and not that hard. You'll need some push on connectors as well. Those can be had from Lowes or Home Debit.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/DPDT-20-AMP...EAAOSww41e6M7c
Be SURE you get a maintained type switch and not momentary!
(Momentary work great for slides and awnings but not so much on fans!)
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10-27-2020, 11:34 AM
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Thank you
Awesome - I can always count on the FR Team to come through. I appreciate your suggestions. Based on the recommendations posted, I found a YouTube how-to video as well. Thanks also for the switch link - that's helpful to assure I have the right one for this project.
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10-27-2020, 11:42 AM
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Site Team
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Here's a link to a diagram showing how to wire a motor reversing switch.
https://www.rollertrol.com/DC-motor-...switch-diagram
Good luck!
This is typically a one beer project!
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2017 Nissan Titan 5.6L King cab 4wd
2016 Evergreen Everlite 242RBS
29' empty nest model. Blue Ox WD hitch
(1 queen bed, large main cabin and huge bathroom)
Camping days 2010-53, 2011-47, 2012-41, 2013-41, 2014-31, 2015-40, 2016-44, 2017-63, 2018-75, 2019-32, 2020-41, 2021-49, 2022-43, 2023-66
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10-27-2020, 02:35 PM
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In-and-out
Quote:
Originally Posted by 5picker
I've not done it on your particular model but on some older crank up vent motors I did.
DC motors will certainly reverse if the leads are swapped. Look at power window motors, awning motors, slide motors, etc... all reversed by swapping the leads. (done with a switch in those cases)
One thing to keep in mind... the roof of a R/V sitting in the sun can get awfully hot... are you sure you want to suck that hot air IN the vent? You'd be better off opening a window and let BOTH ceiling fans pull air INTO the R/V from below.
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I've done the reversing trick on fans, too.
5-picker, here is the use-case for one intake fan and one exhaust fan. Suppose you are out hiking or at the pool all day on a nice hot day. You come back to the trailer after it's started to cool down. You open the trailer to get away from the vicious mosquitoes and get hit with a blast of hot air. You duck inside and close the door. The quickest way to do a complete air exchange is to run one fan on intake and the other on exhaust. The air streaming through the trailer minimizes the dead spots.
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10-27-2020, 02:51 PM
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Crappy Smell
Another thing to keep in mind is that some fans are located next to the black water tank vent.
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10-27-2020, 03:03 PM
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Pickin', Campin', Mason
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: South Western PA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Larry-NC
I've done the reversing trick on fans, too.
5-picker, here is the use-case for one intake fan and one exhaust fan. Suppose you are out hiking or at the pool all day on a nice hot day. You come back to the trailer after it's started to cool down. You open the trailer to get away from the vicious mosquitoes and get hit with a blast of hot air. You duck inside and close the door. The quickest way to do a complete air exchange is to run one fan on intake and the other on exhaust. The air streaming through the trailer minimizes the dead spots.
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Oh... I agree, there is a time and place for one intake and one exhausting... we do it a lot!... it just isn't in the middle of a stuffy warm day as the OP eluded to wanting to use theirs where the roof air temperature is many degrees OVER ambient.
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10-27-2020, 04:14 PM
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Clarification
Quote:
Originally Posted by 5picker
Oh... I agree, there is a time and place for one intake and one exhausting... we do it a lot!... it just isn't in the middle of a stuffy warm day as the OP eluded to wanting to use theirs where the roof air temperature is many degrees OVER ambient.
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Thanks again for all the valuable insight. Just for a quick clarification, we generally use the fans at night to help move air while sleeping. For the most part, if the weather is good, we are outside exploring, or if I can find a trout stream to try my luck at attracting a hungry fish to a dry-fly (now that's paradise!).
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10-27-2020, 06:39 PM
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Pickin', Campin', Mason
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FiremedicPQ1
Thanks again for all the valuable insight. Just for a quick clarification, we generally use the fans at night to help move air while sleeping. For the most part, if the weather is good, we are outside exploring, or if I can find a trout stream to try my luck at attracting a hungry fish to a dry-fly (now that's paradise!).
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F&AM Lodge 358 Somerset, PA - JAFFA Shrine - Altoona, PA
Days Camped ☼ '19=118 ☼ '20=116 ☼ '21=123 ☼ '22=134 ☼ '23=118☼ '24=64
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10-27-2020, 08:32 PM
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Reverse fan
Make sure the location of your sewer vent. I know that one of my 3 max air fans is located within 3 ft of the sewer vent on the roof
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10-28-2020, 07:04 AM
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I added a 12v fan that way I can also move the direction so it blows right on us. 3 speed Marine grade spliced it into the 12 v wire
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10-28-2020, 07:17 AM
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Site Team
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dcbenny
I added a 12v fan that way I can also move the direction so it blows right on us. 3 speed Marine grade spliced it into the 12 v wire
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I like that idea! I have an -old- 12v oscillating fan we used to use when we were tent camping before we moved to trailers. It's from K-mart and probably 25+ years old. It has a large plastic clamp to clamp to the edge of a shelf or table top but we don't really have a convenient shelf in range of the bed. I think I need a fan like yours!
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