New 120v into slide

[ependydad]

I have close to 20’ of wall space on one side of the camper and no freaking outlets of any kind. Being able to have a couple of 120v outlets would be convenient.

Has anyone ran a new line 120v into a slide?

I figure that while I’m running a line for my battery charger, I could just as easily drop 2 lines down into the underbelly. I would definitely buy marine-grade/stranded wire. And a protective cover/sheath/whatever it’s called.

Looking under the slide, there is already a wiring hanger and 12v lines in wiring loom (is that the right name?).



I was looking on the OTHER side of the camper. It doesn’t seem like it would be too hard to do. Here’s what that slide looks like:

[Witch Doctor]

Originally Posted by ependydad

I have close to 20’ of wall space on one side of the camper and no freaking outlets of any kind. Being able to have a couple of 120v outlets would be convenient.

Has anyone ran a new line 120v into a slide?

I figure that while I’m running a line for my battery charger, I could just as easily drop 2 lines down into the underbelly. I would definitely buy marine-grade/stranded wire. And a protective cover/sheath/whatever it’s called.

Looking under the slide, there is already a wiring hanger and 12v lines in wiring loom (is that the right name?).
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I was looking on the OTHER side of the camper. It doesn’t seem like it would be too hard to do. Here’s what that slide looks like:
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That's find to do Doug but make sure it's is running through your flex connector, I still would put it in 1/2 " flex conduit, other then that your wire will be bunching when the slide is brought in. You can see why they attach all those wires to that. No short cuts buddy

[ependydad]

Originally Posted by Witch Doctor

That's find to do Doug but make sure it's is running through your flex connector, I still would put it in 1/2 " flex conduit, other then that your wire will be bunching when the slide is brought in. You can see why they attach all those wires to that. No short cuts buddy

The 1/2 flex conduit is the gray thing in my last 2 pictures (showing the other side of the camper where this already happens), right?

[Witch Doctor]

Right

[TX_F2]

Following this thread.

[RJHuser]

I would use stranded cord in the wire carrier. Solid conduit like home wiring could break from opening and closing the slide.
On our 5ther the romex is run to a connection box ion the frame of the trailer then a section of 3 wire stranded flex cable (SOOW OR SJOOW) through the wire/hose carrier into a connection box inside the slide. From that connection box romex is run to the outlets.

Rick

[ependydad]

Originally Posted by RJHuser

I would use stranded cord in the wire carrier. Solid conduit like home wiring could break from opening and closing the slide.
On our 5ther the romex is run to a connection box ion the frame of the trailer then a section of 3 wire stranded flex cable (SOOW OR SJOOW) through the wire/hose carrier into a connection box inside the slide. From that connection box romex is run to the outlets.

Rick

Interesting- you'd save money on the stranded cord since it's fairly expensive.

[Thurman]

I recently did this mod in my 14 foot slide so that we would have both 110vAC and USB charging connections in the same box, I actually added two of them. As stated there were no outlets within the slide. My GF does medical transcribing and needed a place to plug in her laptop and she wanted USB charging ports. I tapped into an electrical outlet of the front bedroom on the drivers side and ran 12/2/G SJO (stranded) back to where existing 12vDC wires were for the slides LED lights then followed the path of the 12vDC wiring along the flex arm thingy. I went through the floor of the slide close to the outside wall and brought this SJO wire up into a "handy box". I ran the SJO cord through a new wire loom (yes that's what the black corrugated thingy is) all the way up and into the slide. Where I penetrated the TT's floor at the bedroom and where I penetrated the slide floor I sealed the wire loom with clear silicone. After running the SJO cord up through the floor and into the handy box I used 14/2/G regular romex for the rest of the run. I added a duplex outlet about six inches off the floor, this was under the dinette seating area and it may be useful one day. After the handy box I ran plastic conduit up to an outlet on the wall, then ran an extension under the dinette seating and on to the other end of the slide. I brought this up to a level with the other new outlet. When the slide moves the new wiring folds up with the flex thingy and the previous existing 12vDC wiring. I have photos somewhere and will try to dig them up. I also painted the new plastic wiring conduit, the boxes for the new outlets/USB ports, and the cover plates to co-ordinate with the interior of the TT, yep-her idea. This has worked out really nice for her to sit at the dinette table and do her work on her laptop.

[ependydad]

Awesome to hear, Thurman! If you can find/post pictures, I’d much appreciate it.

[RJHuser]

Looking at it again, SEOOW would be the best selection.

(S = Severe Service (600 volt cords)
E = Elastomer
OO = Oil-Resistant Outer Jacket and Oil-Resistant Interior Insulation
W = Weather and Water resistant)

You diffently want “W”, the weather and water resistant, and the “E” has a wider usable temperature range and is more flexible especially in cold temperatures.

While SJOOW or SJEOOW (SJ = Junior Severe Service (300 volt cords) could be used, the “S” is more durable and thicker insulation.

Rick

[ependydad]

Originally Posted by RJHuser

Looking at it again, SEOOW would be the best selection.

(S = Severe Service (600 volt cords)
E = Elastomer
OO = Oil-Resistant Outer Jacket and Oil-Resistant Interior Insulation
W = Weather and Water resistant)

Rick

Thanks Rick! Where do I find this from?

[vasnipe]

Looking at your picture #2 you might want to put something to protect the wire from chafing on those sharp edges.
With the bouncing our rigs get on the road something like that is a problem waiting to happen. You can use some wire loom or a grommet or something to protect your wires.



Here is a link showing some solutions.
https://www.digikey.com/products/en/...s-grommets/491

Great idea to add the extra outlets, you just gave me something else to modify on my rig...

[RJHuser]

SOOW service cord can be found in many places, Home Depot, Lowe’s, Menards, electrical distribution supplier, Amazon, E-Bay. At work, when need shorter lengths, we get from McMaster-Carr, Grainger (they are overpriced).

SEOOW cord is harder to find, best way is to a web search, also electrical distribution suppliers usually carry it.

Rick

[ependydad]

Good stuff, everyone. Thank you so much!

[pdqparalegal1]

Originally Posted by vasnipe

Looking at your picture #2 you might want to put something to protect the wire from chafing on those sharp edges.
With the bouncing our rigs get on the road something like that is a problem waiting to happen. You can use some wire loom or a grommet or something to protect your wires.



Here is a link showing some solutions.
https://www.digikey.com/products/en/...s-grommets/491

Great idea to add the extra outlets, you just gave me something else to modify on my rig...

X-2 especially the bottom example. My slide had the 12v wiring sliding in and out of the frame work with no protection. Edge of tube had a razor sharp edge left over from being cut with a chop saw. I used a Dremel tool to smooth the edges, put wire inside a wire loom, Then covered all four edges with the protector in the bottom of photo. Has held up so far.
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[Thurman]

My 'puter is acting funny today and I can't get photos up on this site. I have to get my IT person, my GF, to help with this. I did find where I had posted two photos when I did the project: http://www.forestriverforums.com/for...ts-153022.html

[Sbosserman]

Thank you for explaining what the SOOW & SEOOW mean. It really bothers me to no end when people use acronyms that only a very few people know what it means. Please, please, please, site members, don't use abbreviations or acronyms that are so uncommon that few people understand them. I really enjoy this site, but it is supposed to be for the average RVer and new RVers and not RV specialists or technicians.

[vasnipe]

Since I'm not an electrical type I had to look these up again today to refresh my mind. My electrical knowledge consists mainly of making sure the circuit is de-energized and capacitors are discharged, preferably before reaching in and discharging with my body.

Originally Posted by Sbosserman

Thank you for explaining what the SOOW & SEOOW mean. It really bothers me to no end when people use acronyms that only a very few people know what it means. Please, please, please, site members, don't use abbreviations or acronyms that are so uncommon that few people understand them. I really enjoy this site, but it is supposed to be for the average RVer and new RVers and not RV specialists or technicians.

The letters in "SOOW" stand for cable properties. The ‘S’ in SOOW cable means “Service.” For portable cords that begin with an S but are NOT followed by a J, the voltage rating is 600 volts. The ‘OO’ means the cable has oil resistant insulation and jacketing. The ‘W’ means the cable is weather and water resistant. Overall, SOOW cable resists oil, solvents, water, ozone, aging, and abrasion. It is also flame retardant, flexible, and durable.
SOOW Cord, SOOW Cable, SOOW Wire from Allied Wire & Cable | Distributor of Portable Cord

SEOOW & SJEOOW

The thermoplastic elastomer jacket is what sets this SEOOW family apart from the SOOW & SJOOW portable cords. This thermoplastic contains chemical resistance characteristics of PVC & flexible properties of rubber.
In more general terms the SEOOW is a high-quality flexible cord engineered with plastic characteristics and rubber jacketed material while the SOOW counterpart is only made up of a rubber jacket. The SEOOW is also more resistant to water than SOOW and can be used at lower temperatures—the SEOOW temperature range is –50ºC to 105ºC.
What’s the Difference Between SOOW, SEOOW, and STOW Portable Cord? | WireAndCableYourWay.com


Hope this helps some.

[Thurman]

Maybe this will help to understand my project: OOOps, you will have to enlarge the photos to read what I wrote on each photo

[Witch Doctor]

Originally Posted by Thurman

Maybe this will help to understand my project: OOOps, you will have to enlarge the photos to read what I wrote on each photo

Nice job, maybe you should work for Forest River.