Suspension Upgrade: MorRyde -vs- Lippert

GPs37FLH · 03-13-2021, 10:06 AM

I'm looking to upgrade my new Sabre 5'er factory suspension system with one that has shock absorbing features for a less jarring towing experience. The two leading contenders I've been looking at are from Lippert and MorRyde.

From initial appearance, the Lippert Road Armor shock absorbing equalizer kit seems to be much more beefy and provide a smoother ride than the competitive MorRyde CRE3000 suspension system. Anyone with opinions on which one is better?

Also, I checked out the LCI website for any information to determine which Road Armor dual axle kit is compatible with my Sabre, but couldn't find anything. Is the Road Armor kit compatible with any and all stock dual or triple axle suspension systems? MorRyde requires several measurements to determine which of their many suspension systems are compatible with what I have.

Thanks for any and all opinions and replies on this!

itat · 03-14-2021, 07:56 AM

If your budget will allow, I’d look at the MORryde Independent Suspension system with disk brakes.

Matheny9 · 03-14-2021, 08:09 AM

I have Lippert shackles and Sumo Springs and they work great.

jrk341 · 03-14-2021, 08:21 AM

Dexter also makes a kit called the ez-flex. That's what I put on our TT.

GPs37FLH · 03-14-2021, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by itat

If your budget will allow, I’d look at the MORryde Independent Suspension system with disk brakes.

Thanks for the reply. Yeah, I looked at it, but it's more than I want to bite off and is something that probably should be installed by a dealer. I'm looking at the Road Armor suspension upgrade because it's an upgrade I can do myself and doesn't take too long to do. Plus, I'm also looking to replace my stock Lippert 1621 pin box with a MorRyde rubber pin box to complete this smoother ride project.

GPs37FLH · 03-14-2021, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by jrk341

Dexter also makes a kit called the ez-flex. That's what I put on our TT.

I'll have to have a look at that Dexter kit too. Thank you for reminding me of that.

Did you install the EZ Flex suspension upgrade yourself? How long did it take you, if you did do it yourself?

jrk341 · 03-14-2021, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by GPs37FLH

I'll have to have a look at that Dexter kit too. Thank you for reminding me of that.

Did you install the EZ Flex suspension upgrade yourself? How long did it take you, if you did do it yourself?

I did do it myself. Approximately 2.5 hrs per side.

GPs37FLH · 03-14-2021, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by jrk341

I did do it myself. Approximately 2.5 hrs per side.

Again, thanks! My kind of project.

jrk341 · 03-14-2021, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by GPs37FLH

Again, thanks! My kind of project.

I don't know your rv but I would also do the heavy duty shackles and wet bolts while you are in their.

Jack350 · 03-14-2021, 03:10 PM

Check the Morride4000 also. Gives 4 inches of travel. I am on third year and it does a great job.

Tundra 2014 · 03-14-2021, 04:05 PM

Please let us know how when you change pin boxes, as I am looking to do the same. On the 2 Moryrydes, 3500 and 4000, they each have a max weight limit you might need to consider for your trailer. The 4000 is for heavier trailers.

GPs37FLH · 03-15-2021, 07:28 AM

So, I've made up my mind that I'm definitely going to upgrade the Sabre's suspension system and install the heavy duty shackles. So far, all the vendors of these systems have installation kits that can be ordered separately that includes the heavy duty shackles and wet bolts.

I plan to do the upgrade myself since the manufacturers and y'all said it's a relatively easy installation. For the project, I already have a Trailer-Aide Plus and a 20 ton bottle jack to get the wheels up in the air. I'm looking to buy a pair of 6 ton jack stands for this project. With the RV hitched to my truck, I think these stands should handle the Sabre's weight since not all the 14,000lbs will be on the axles, correct? Also, once in the air, where is the best and safest placement under the RV for the jack stands?

GPs37FLH · 03-15-2021, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Tundra 2014

Please let us know how when you change pin boxes, as I am looking to do the same. On the 2 Moryrydes, 3500 and 4000, they each have a max weight limit you might need to consider for your trailer. The 4000 is for heavier trailers.

My plan is to get the suspension system upgraded this month, then replace the pin box next month (I got way too many upgrades going on with this RV right now, including tinting the windows).

Hopefully these will be my final upgrades and I'll definitely let everyone know about how they went and the improved ride with the RV.

dtrussell · 03-15-2021, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by GPs37FLH

I'm looking to upgrade my new Sabre 5'er factory suspension system with one that has shock absorbing features for a less jarring towing experience. The two leading contenders I've been looking at are from Lippert and MorRyde.

From initial appearance, the Lippert Road Armor shock absorbing equalizer kit seems to be much more beefy and provide a smoother ride than the competitive MorRyde CRE3000 suspension system. Anyone with opinions on which one is better?

Also, I checked out the LCI website for any information to determine which Road Armor dual axle kit is compatible with my Sabre, but couldn't find anything. Is the Road Armor kit compatible with any and all stock dual or triple axle suspension systems? MorRyde requires several measurements to determine which of their many suspension systems are compatible with what I have.

Thanks for any and all opinions and replies on this!

I just finished replacing the CRE3000 suspension with the MoRyde SRE4000 and added the wetbolt system.
There is a world of difference, much heavier assembly and the shackles are at least twice as thick and the kit comes with brass bushings replacing the OEM nylon ones.
As mentioned in this thread, pay attention to the axle rating. The SRE4000 is good for max of 7K axles.

W5CI · 03-15-2021, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by itat

If your budget will allow, I’d look at the MORryde Independent Suspension system with disk brakes.

this is the single best upgrade anyone can do to their RV

GPs37FLH · 03-15-2021, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by dtrussell

I just finished replacing the CRE3000 suspension with the MoRyde SRE4000 and added the wetbolt system.
There is a world of difference, much heavier assembly and the shackles are at least twice as thick and the kit comes with brass bushings replacing the OEM nylon ones.
As mentioned in this thread, pay attention to the axle rating. The SRE4000 is good for max of 7K axles.

Yeah, I looked over the SRE4000 too and was surprised that it supports less axle weight than the CRE3000 system. SRE4000 is indeed much more beefy when compared to the 3000 and probably a much better ride too, but the CRE3000 supports up to 8,000lbs axles, which is strange that its rated for a higher load.

If you don't mind me asking, I'm going to pickup a pair of jack stands for this job that handle 6 tons each. Do you think it should be more than enough for my 14,000lb 5'er? Did you mount your jack stands under your axles or under the frame? I'm also curious how long it took you to do the job yourself.

Thank you for the comments and your replies!

jrk341 · 03-15-2021, 08:35 PM

You will want to put your jack stands under the frame. You need your axles to move so you can lower them to work on the springs.

dtrussell · 03-15-2021, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by GPs37FLH

Yeah, I looked over the SRE4000 too and was surprised that it supports less axle weight than the CRE3000 system. SRE4000 is indeed much more beefy when compared to the 3000 and probably a much better ride too, but the CRE3000 supports up to 8,000lbs axles, which is strange that its rated for a higher load.

If you don't mind me asking, I'm going to pickup a pair of jack stands for this job that handle 6 tons each. Do you think it should be more than enough for my 14,000lb 5'er? Did you mount your jack stands under your axles or under the frame? I'm also curious how long it took you to do the job yourself.

Thank you for the comments and your replies!

Yes, as mentioned in another post. The jack stands need to be put under the frame. You do need to move the axles slightly during the install. Also note, you need to raise the trailer at least a couple of inches higher, if you are installing the SRE4000. They add that much height from the CRE3000.

GPs37FLH · 03-16-2021, 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by dtrussell

Yes, as mentioned in another post. The jack stands need to be put under the frame. You do need to move the axles slightly during the install. Also note, you need to raise the trailer at least a couple of inches higher, if you are installing the SRE4000. They add that much height from the CRE3000.

Yeah, that's right, I forgot the axles have to be lifted a slight amount once the tires are off the RV. So, I assume you had no issues with your frame afterwards? I see from other forum posts of folks telling you NOT to jack your trailer at the frame since it could damage the frame, which for this job, you have no other option. Are there safer areas of the frame than others to place the stands?

dtrussell · 03-17-2021, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by GPs37FLH

Yeah, that's right, I forgot the axles have to be lifted a slight amount once the tires are off the RV. So, I assume you had no issues with your frame afterwards? I see from other forum posts of folks telling you NOT to jack your trailer at the frame since it could damage the frame, which for this job, you have no other option. Are there safer areas of the frame than others to place the stands?

No issue with frame after using the jack stands. In addition I used the six point levelup system to also help support the trailer. This way there was not any one point of the frame not supported. I placed the jack stands (four) about eight feet in from the rear and front of the trailer.

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