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10-13-2013, 05:37 PM
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Trailer Leveling
We have a fairly new Windjammer 3006W and love the TT. My only issue is leveling. It has the electric stabilizers, but the unit tends to lean to the left (side with both slides) and even settles a bit on the left after a few days of setup. This even on a level lot. I typically put small leveling blocks under the left wheels to compensate but now wonder if the electric stabilizers are even with it. Thought about adding a removable type scissor jack right in front of the wheels to help level the TT. I saw where Old Coot just added the same electric stabilizers in front of the tandem to limit movement, mine is more of a leveling issue. With that, are the lightweight trailers more prone to "flex" in the frames? Thought?
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10-13-2013, 05:56 PM
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Tagged to follow.
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10-13-2013, 06:02 PM
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Yes they flex,jacks in front of axle are a (Help)? We pull up on pads on the Slide side. Youroo!!
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10-13-2013, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by youroo
Yes they flex,jacks in front of axle are a (Help)?
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You bet they help. Thanks again youroo.
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10-13-2013, 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by OldCoot
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Originally Posted by youroo
Yes they flex,jacks in front of axle are a (Help)?
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You bet they help. Thanks again youroo.
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OC,we went to (Little Bohemia) to eat and Joyce wore her OC Dollar Ring! Thanks for the Ring! I dont know how Dillenger got out of that place? Youroo!!
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10-13-2013, 06:38 PM
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Did I not make you a $1 bird?
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10-13-2013, 06:40 PM
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I lot of people will "level" with the slide-side being an inch high to account for the expected settling.
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10-13-2013, 06:47 PM
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Yes it is Home in my (Treasures) Box! I am also glad you got the (Goshen Gift)! Youroo!!
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10-13-2013, 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by ependydad
I lot of people will "level" with the slide-side being an inch high to account for the expected settling.
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So I'm NOT crazy.... I've only had this trailer out once (my first slide out). I'm not a level-nazi, but I get it pretty close. I walked around a few hours later and happened to glance at the level on the front end...about 1/2" low. I wondered how many people leveled a little high on the slide side.
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10-14-2013, 08:47 AM
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We generally don't do it, but I've read here of people doing it. Remarkably, we haven't been able to feel any settling. But, we also don't have any mounted levels to be able to see it at a glance- though, pretty sensitive to being out of level (as are 2 of our doors- they swing shut when we aren't level). I can usually stand inside and tell you which side is high/low and out of curiosity have proven it with baby bottles on the counter.
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10-14-2013, 10:19 AM
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Unless you are on concrete or other card stuff there will be some settling. Using pads for a bigger footprint under the levelers works well and the OC method is good, too. Usually it's the levelers on the slide side which sink into softer material I w/o something under them for more surface area.
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10-14-2013, 10:45 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigTJohn
Unless you are on concrete or other card stuff there will be some settling. Using pads for a bigger footprint under the levelers works well and the OC method is good, too. Usually it's the levelers on the slide side which sink into softer material I w/o something under them for more surface area.
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Even on a concrete surface the TT will settle to the left a bit..both slides out. Because the "stabilizers" are just that they really don't compensate for "leveling"... Think the manual scissors would be better in terms of leveling.
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10-14-2013, 11:31 AM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Crew
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When I pull in my TT, I will check the side to side level. I then drive up on leveling blocks with the slides side about an inch or so higher. I then proceed to unhook from my TV and pre-level front to back with hitch jack, the front slighty lower. Then set down the rear electric stabilizers first and then the front. I may set some screw type jacks under the frame if I'm staying awhile.
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10-14-2013, 12:11 PM
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I noticed that my elec stabilizers don't seem to influence level and also noticed that they shift in the middle when deploying if left is higher than right or vice versa.
My trailer slides are both driver side. When opened, the trailer will drop on that side, elec stabilizers deployed or not. Although I have slide toppers (awnings), I still want a slight drop to that side to help shed water off the slides... just a slight drop, not much.
So, when I park, I try to get driver side a touch high (on level) to compensate partially for the drop when I deploy my two same-side slides. I check level after slides are out looking for a very slight drop (minor lean to slide-side) as my "that's perfect." On this model now, I deploy stabilizers after the slides are out.
Do any of you use this same strategy? How's it work for you?
(edit note - I posted while/before viewing Elind's post above)
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10-14-2013, 12:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BDavis
Even on a concrete surface the TT will settle to the left a bit..both slides out. Because the "stabilizers" are just that they really don't compensate for "leveling"... Think the manual scissors would be better in terms of leveling.
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I think we are talking about two different things the stabilizers are not for leveling......including the screw down ones the look like scissor jacks. They are not designed to hold the weight of a trailer..........(have seen them collapse when used to level).......If we are talking about the levelers esp the automatic type different story.......... don't have them but I would place a flat board larger than their pad surface but I would still try to level the trailer side to side as close as I could first............
My old school way is to pull the trailer wheels up on blocks to level (side to side) & yes they sometimes sink / settle a little.
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10-14-2013, 01:30 PM
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Exactly.
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10-14-2013, 01:48 PM
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Phat Phrog Stunt Crew
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On my old TT, I had scissor jacks in each corner and i could move the TT to any position I wanted, even get the wheels off the ground. The new TT is totally differant setting up and the stabilizers just put down equal force on both pads.
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10-14-2013, 03:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by elind
On my old TT, I had scissor jacks in each corner and i could move the TT to any position I wanted, even get the wheels off the ground. The new TT is totally differant setting up and the stabilizers just put down equal force on both pads.
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Although you were successful when you used your "old" corner jacks that way, my previous trailer instructions warned strongly against using my manual corner jacks that way. I would caution inexperienced campers not to try the same process.
Like your new and different TT, my current elec stabilizers will bind if over-applied either retracting or extending.
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10-14-2013, 06:14 PM
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I keep 1 2x6x8 and 1 2x6x6 at all times in the bed of my truck. No matter where we park I place them on the side of the slide under the tires.
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10-15-2013, 11:24 AM
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I am very new to all of this but I would have thought having the slide side down very slightly would facilitate water run off. I put the opposite side tires on a length of 1X10. (I only have slides on the driver side.)If the slide side is high I imagine that water would puddle against the seals at the top during a heavy rain. Am I too worried?
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