Bumper pull toyhaulers?

Summit151 · 03-13-2018, 07:45 PM

Hello I am looking for info on how we’ll bumper pull toyhaulers pull? I have heard they can be a nightmare to pull with the sway issues. I found a nice Fuzion 260 for a good price and would like to jump on it but I am nervous with some of the stories I heard

Thanks !

keegantimber · 03-13-2018, 07:53 PM

I have a Rubicon 2600. Towed with a Ram 1500 and now a Ram 2500. Using a Centreline hitch with sway control. No sway issues for me.

Summit151 · 03-13-2018, 08:14 PM

How long is your rubicon ? The Fuzion is 30’ overall. Does it tow different with it loaded with weight in the back?

extxn · 03-13-2018, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Summit151

How long is your rubicon ? The Fuzion is 30’ overall. Does it tow different with it loaded with weight in the back?

EXACTLY ~ you do not want all the weight to the rear of your toy hauler. Many threads on loading and how to weigh for correct hitch weight.

I have a Grey Wolf 26RR (30 ft. overall) which I load a Goldwing Trike inside and tow without problems (Ram 2500 w/ load leveler hitch & sway control). Pulled it from VT to TX last October, just shy of 2K miles without any problems.

KFX450RXC · 03-13-2018, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Summit151

Hello I am looking for info on how we’ll bumper pull toyhaulers pull? I have heard they can be a nightmare to pull with the sway issues. I found a nice Fuzion 260 for a good price and would like to jump on it but I am nervous with some of the stories I heard

Thanks !

Are you going to be pulling this with a Ford Ranger, an F650, or something in-between? Properly set up WD hitches with the proper truck will handle virtually any bumper pull toy hauler out there. Our old Work & Play had a pin weight of 1500 lbs. but it pulled like a dream once I set the Equalizer hitch up properly.

Summit151 · 03-13-2018, 08:39 PM

Sorry I have a 3500 srw gmc 6.0

bhoth · 03-13-2018, 08:52 PM

I have a Shockwave T28RQDX bumper pull 35 foot long, Gross weight 12,100 LBS. Pulls great with 14K Equalizer hitch. My truck is a '12 Ram 3500 SRW.

KFX450RXC · 03-13-2018, 10:04 PM

A 3500 GMC should handle that Fuzion very nicely. As bhoth noted, I recommend the Equalizer hitch.

But you have more than enough truck to do the job. Typical toys like quads and bikes shouldn't create a problem which results from too much weight in the back.

Summit151 · 03-13-2018, 11:56 PM

Ok thanks for the info so far! I noticed the camper has a 106 gallon water tank. I’m wondering if the camper is designed to have weight in the back and the water tank full? Where would the water tank be mounted ussually

herbike · 03-14-2018, 01:30 AM

We have a T28FQDX, 32 ft box, 34 ft to hitch, gross wt 12100. Once we got the axles straightened up to the frame it pulls okay. So far we have pulled it over 11,000 miles in the last 16 months. I would prefer a fifth wheel but cost seemed to dictate we get more for our money with the bumper pull.

With the back of the TV loaded we can gross out at 21.1K, handles it great.
We have the 106 gallon water tank with an additional 60 gallon option. 40 gallon fuel station, with those all full is when we gross 12.1K. Pulling it with '15 3500 Duramax LTZ SRW

KFX450RXC · 03-14-2018, 06:03 AM

Most have their tanks mounted between the axles. Our W&P had a 110 gallon tank mounted there and when we pulled the camper with full water, it didn't effect towing at all.

Yes, more weight but no difference in balance.

polishdon · 03-14-2018, 09:25 AM

I have a 37 foot Wolf Pack 25pack12 that I pull with my 2500HD Diesel. I was worried when I purchased it because a lot of people (some on this forum) said towing a bumper pull toy hauler that size would be a nightmare. I have the Equalizer 4 point hitch and love the set up. I've traveled all over NY, VT, PA with my set up, with 2 quads, with a garage full of BBQ\camping gear, full water tank, full black and grey tanks, empty everything and I've never had a "white knuckle" moment yet. With your truck and the proper hitch set up I think you'd be happy.

Wileykid · 03-14-2018, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Summit151

Hello I am looking for info on how we’ll bumper pull toyhaulers pull? I have heard they can be a nightmare to pull with the sway issues. I found a nice Fuzion 260 for a good price and would like to jump on it but I am nervous with some of the stories I heard

Thanks !

I pull a 25' toy hauler (30' overall hitch pull) with my Chevy 2500. Weight is max 10K pounds with a Centerline Husky WD with sway control. 20K miles or so over the last two years. No problems, and I have pulled through most any weather, except snow. There are winds that you should not be in, and that would go for any trailer. I have parked on the off ramp in some winds, but also have pulled in 45-50 mph winds.

You have the truck to handle the trailer. Get the proper hitch you like, and have fun. No nightmares, but remember, in high winds you are pulling a billboard. Once you get use to pulling a trailer (if you never have, or that length), it is really a non event.

The stories you hear are people who do not have the proper truck and hitch setup, and usually driving like fools.

Mark

Summit151 · 03-14-2018, 12:34 PM

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I pull a 25' toy hauler (30' overall hitch pull) with my Chevy 2500. Weight is max 10K pounds with a Centerline Husky WD with sway control. 20K miles or so over the last two years. No problems, and I have pulled through most any weather, except snow. There are winds that you should not be in, and that would go for any trailer. I have parked on the off ramp in some winds, but also have pulled in 45-50 mph winds.

You have the truck to handle the trailer. Get the proper hitch you like, and have fun. No nightmares, but remember, in high winds you are pulling a billboard. Once you get use to pulling a trailer (if you never have, or that length), it is really a non event.

The stories you hear are people who do not have the proper truck and hitch setup, and usually driving like fools.

Mark

Thanks for all the info and feed back so far! I currently own a 35ft non toyhauler fifth wheel so I have pulled trailers I was just worried about the horror stories of bumper pull toyhaulers

polishdon · 03-14-2018, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Summit151

Thanks for all the info and feed back so far! I currently own a 35ft non toyhauler fifth wheel so I have pulled trailers I was just worried about the horror stories of bumper pull toyhaulers

Don't let them scare you, you have the truck and experience.

Wileykid · 03-14-2018, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Summit151

Thanks for all the info and feed back so far! I currently own a 35ft non toyhauler fifth wheel so I have pulled trailers I was just worried about the horror stories of bumper pull toyhaulers

You won't have a problem. Bumper pull is a little more "sensitive" to the higher winds, but with a good hitch setup (won't go there,,, like an oil thread), it will be a non-event for you. The toy haulers are easier to improperly load then a regular tt. An empty toy hauler has a heavier tongue weight, which goes away when you load your toys to offset it. Like it was designed to do.

Bet your biggest issue will be the adjustment on backing the trailer up.

Mark

fmjnathan · 03-30-2018, 09:46 PM

I am pulling a bumper pull 2017 XLR NITRO 29KW with a 2012 F350 6.7 l. I have a weight distribution hitch w anti sway bar. 93 gallon fresh water tank. H2O weighs 8.3 pounds/gal.. I can fit 2 atv's in the garage. The only issue I have is making some tighter corners. I pay attention and use a spotter always. My tow speed is normally 65 mph. I have had it up to 75 mph with no sway issues at all. The reason for a bumper pull for me was the capability to haul a 3rd atv in the pick up bed. I have no air bags on the truck.