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If you don’t pay well for peoples skills it gets very hard during times of good employment to entice good people.
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Old 05-17-2018, 04:24 PM   #3
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If you donít pay well for peoples skills it gets very hard during times of good employment to entice good people.
Actually they are paying pretty well. I posted an article a while back from the WSJ about the boom times in Elkhart.. http://www.forestriverforums.com/for...ml#post1775586

I think it is more of a shortage of available workers. Iíve been to that area for repairs on my Cedar Creek (Topeka, IN). Pretty area but no way would I want to live there. It would just seem to me it would be a hard area to draw people to live and work even if wages are good.

You also know with that many job openings and a shortage of available skilled workers that many will be hired who are not qualified. They can be trained but that takes time and more importantly commitment from management. It happens all the time when companies grow fast.
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Old 05-17-2018, 04:39 PM   #4
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It's not only in IN. We took a tour of a Forest River plant in Hemet, CA and the plant manager said they are crying for help. He told us each plant has discretion and they changed to a $/hour system rather than piecework to try and get better quality. They made Sonoma and Wildwood.
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Actually they are paying pretty well. I posted an article a while back from the WSJ about the boom times in Elkhart.. http://www.forestriverforums.com/for...ml#post1775586

I think it is more of a shortage of available workers.

I live in the area and can confirm that we're pretty hard up for workers. A few months back, the local news stated that the RV manufacturers and their suppliers have 20,000 more jobs than people to fill them. Current unemployment in Elkhart is 2.9% and still shrinking. Really, that means the only people that don't have jobs are those that don't want jobs.


I've never seen it so bad around here. Most places are now offering hiring bonuses (up to $500), extremely high hourly wages for the area (up to $20 an hour!), and very nice benefits packages. And they still can't find people. And trust me, $20 an hour for this area is good money.
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I live in the area and can confirm that we're pretty hard up for workers. A few months back, the local news stated that the RV manufacturers and their suppliers have 20,000 more jobs than people to fill them. Current unemployment in Elkhart is 2.9% and still shrinking. Really, that means the only people that don't have jobs are those that don't want jobs.


I've never seen it so bad around here. Most places are now offering hiring bonuses (up to $500), extremely high hourly wages for the area (up to $20 an hour!), and very nice benefits packages. And they still can't find people. And trust me, $20 an hour for this area is good money.
I see the welder jobs available....hope the wage is more than $20 an hour. Theyíll never get skilled trades people hired at that wage. Not bad for unskilled workers though.
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I see the welder jobs available....hope the wage is more than $20 an hour. Theyíll never get skilled trades people hired at that wage. Not bad for unskilled workers though.
For welding, it looks like that's still a pretty decent starting wage, according to salary websites. I don't know - we don't use or need welders where I work, so all I can do is google it. According to a few sites, average wage is around $36-38k a year, or $18.00-$19.00 an hour.
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I feel pretty good about our Rockwood ,looks like they're doing fairly well.
Our windjammer just rolled off the line. PDI at dealer went great, only found minor stuff.

Coachmen on the other hand, looks like it needs the entire plant.

I'd stay away from buying a coachmen.
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Look at the experience requirements for the various positions.
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Wow...an electrician...and they say he should be able to read prints...and know how to use a tape measure. pretty basic skills. Being an employer just sucks
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Actually they are paying pretty well. I posted an article a while back from the WSJ about the boom times in Elkhart.. http://www.forestriverforums.com/for...ml#post1775586

I think it is more of a shortage of available workers. Iíve been to that area for repairs on my Cedar Creek (Topeka, IN). Pretty area but no way would I want to live there. It would just seem to me it would be a hard area to draw people to live and work even if wages are good.

You also know with that many job openings and a shortage of available skilled workers that many will be hired who are not qualified. They can be trained but that takes time and more importantly commitment from management. It happens all the time when companies grow fast.

I wish I lived near Indiana (again). I was a QA Manager and Assistant QA Manager for Schult and Oakwood homes. Lot's of openings.
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I guess it's not surprising that the quality is so low. Those qualifications might just as well have said " must have a pulse and ability to arrive on time.
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So if there are just not enough people in the area made some smart management type will come up with an amazing idea that building somewhere else where there is an abundance of labour (not just cheap labour) would be beneficial, just thought.
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Im 10 minutes from the Rialto plant, if i was on strike from work I would go work part time there, would be nice to actually see how the plant runs that my TT came from. Not to mention that I take pride in my work, no matter where I work, so QC on my part would be excellent.
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Im 10 minutes from the Rialto plant, if i was on strike from work I would go work part time there, would be nice to actually see how the plant runs that my TT came from. Not to mention that I take pride in my work, no matter where I work, so QC on my part would be excellent.


Great job and good to hear. There are still a few of us out there with good work ethics.
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