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Old 10-27-2017, 03:16 AM   #1
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Recently ive noticed seepage from rain coming through the vinyl fabric of our hybrids pop out bunks. Some seems to come from the seams while other places just from the fabric .i have seen posts about coverings for the bunks but am wondering if this is normal and is there anything else that can be done to water proof the fabric.
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Old 10-27-2017, 02:14 PM   #2
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How old is your camper?
Did you season the tenting before using the first time?
Did you just start noticing it when the weather started getting colder?
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We are picking our roo up next weekend what do you recommend doing to the tent ends to prevent water and damage to them.
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Old 10-27-2017, 03:14 PM   #4
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How old is your camper?
Did you season the tenting before using the first time?
Did you just start noticing it when the weather started getting colder?
Seasoned? Noticed after second season
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Old 10-27-2017, 04:14 PM   #5
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We are picking our roo up next weekend what do you recommend doing to the tent ends to prevent water and damage to them.
All new hybrids and pop ups should have the canvas ends "seasoned".
That means wetting the canvas, especially the seams, and then letting them dry out.
This allows the seam thread to swell in the holes, thus preventing water from leaking.

And any new RV should have the fipurnace run before camping in it, to burn off the manufacturing oils.
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Old 10-27-2017, 04:23 PM   #6
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All new hybrids and pop ups should have the canvas ends "seasoned".
That means wetting the canvas, especially the seams, and then letting them dry out.
This allows the seam thread to swell in the holes, thus preventing water from leaking.

And any new RV should have the fipurnace run before camping in it, to burn off the manufacturing oils.
Not knowing that ahead of time i have done all of that. This is the third summer using and just noticed the seepage happening.
The rain that seems to cause this happens over three days
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How old is your camper?
Did you season the tenting before using the first time?
Did you just start noticing it when the weather started getting colder?
No it happened during August first.
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Old 10-29-2017, 05:00 PM   #8
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If you are not already doing this, and I believe that it only works on the newer ones that have sealed bunkers, when folding in the bunkends close all windows and doors keeping both fan vents open, then turn both fans on high. This sucks in the canvas and reduces the chance of anything getting caught in the bed doors providing a cleaner seal. There is a video that I saw when we first got our Roo and we have never had a problem with leaking. Hope this helps.
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My 2014 leaks as you describe. I don't know if anything can be done to the vinyl itself. Seasoning does nothing beyond the seems and did nothing for my seams. Mine also leaks all the way around where the fabric is attached to the door. The tent ends were replaced under warranty and leak as well. The deal or has worked on it 3 times, keeping it 3 months each time.

I emailed the Fabric manufacturer about using vinyl glue on the seams. They told me to talk to Forest River. I emailed FR explaining all that has been done and they told me to take it to my dealer.

I have decided to purchase a lot of "No Tear" vinyl tape and cover all seams and attachment points.
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My 2014 leaks as you describe. I don't know if anything can be done to the vinyl itself. Seasoning does nothing beyond the seems and did nothing for my seams. Mine also leaks all the way around where the fabric is attached to the door. The tent ends were replaced under warranty and leak as well. The deal or has worked on it 3 times, keeping it 3 months each time.

I emailed the Fabric manufacturer about using vinyl glue on the seams. They told me to talk to Forest River. I emailed FR explaining all that has been done and they told me to take it to my dealer.

I have decided to purchase a lot of "No Tear" vinyl tape and cover all seams and attachment points.
Must have been a bad year for vinyl.
Thanks glad to see im not alone or done anything wrong
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Wish I could remember the name of the stuff I used to use on our old Jayco popup. It was a wax type substance and I'd rub it into the seams and it worked for years. Something I used to use on work boots and it was also for canvas was a product call Bear Grease. Don't know if they even make it anymore.
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My 2014 leaks as you describe. I don't know if anything can be done to the vinyl itself. Seasoning does nothing beyond the seems and did nothing for my seams. Mine also leaks all the way around where the fabric is attached to the door. The tent ends were replaced under warranty and leak as well. The deal or has worked on it 3 times, keeping it 3 months each time.

I emailed the Fabric manufacturer about using vinyl glue on the seams. They told me to talk to Forest River. I emailed FR explaining all that has been done and they told me to take it to my dealer.

I have decided to purchase a lot of "No Tear" vinyl tape and cover all seams and attachment points.
I typed the wrong name of the vinyl repair tape. It is "Tear-Aid" type B. Type A is for fabric. I have used it for small repairs to awnings and such. It sticks fast and holds up very well so I think it will work for the seams.
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Wish I could remember the name of the stuff I used to use on our old Jayco popup. It was a wax type substance and I'd rub it into the seams and it worked for years. Something I used to use on work boots and it was also for canvas was a product call Bear Grease. Don't know if they even make it anymore.


We used that stuff in the 60s on our canvas tents. Today I'd just reach for a block of paraffin.
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anything waxy will work to seal seam hole leakage... go to the shoe polish section and look what is available... I know they sell specific seam sealer stuff in camping departments of sporting goods stores.

Vinyl really cannot leak if there is no holes in it. Vinyl does get condensation on it if camping in cooler weather. Your exhaled breath or humid air will condense out the moisture on the cooler vinyl (in contact with cool air outside)... turn on your bunk fan and unzip a window slightly to help that from happening...

The cotton canvas tent ends (not vinyl) will begin to get damp on the inside after a couple of years. I always apply a waterproofing treatment usually once a year, or more often if I have had to clean the canvas at all. This helps keep the water on the outside, but it will sometimes soak thru if the canvas is pressed against by mattress or bedclothes. I keep a waterproofing spray bottle in the camper to retreat while the sun shines IF heavy rain is forecast.

Hope this helps
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anything waxy will work to seal seam hole leakage... go to the shoe polish section and look what is available... I know they sell specific seam sealer stuff in camping departments of sporting goods stores.

Vinyl really cannot leak if there is no holes in it. Vinyl does get condensation on it if camping in cooler weather. Your exhaled breath or humid air will condense out the moisture on the cooler vinyl (in contact with cool air outside)... turn on your bunk fan and unzip a window slightly to help that from happening...

The cotton canvas tent ends (not vinyl) will begin to get damp on the inside after a couple of years. I always apply a waterproofing treatment usually once a year, or more often if I have had to clean the canvas at all. This helps keep the water on the outside, but it will sometimes soak thru if the canvas is pressed against by mattress or bedclothes. I keep a waterproofing spray bottle in the camper to retreat while the sun shines IF heavy rain is forecast.

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Bunk widows open on each end a 1/4 way and a small fan going both directions . Seapage happens at night or day when no one is in it
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Bunk widows open on each end a 1/4 way and a small fan going both directions . Seapage happens at night or day when no one is in it
Definitely vinyl material and this is the roof im speaking of. Take precautions to keep matress and sleeping bags off material. It is definitely seeping through
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Definitely vinyl material and this is the roof im speaking of.
trying to understand... My vinyl roof is peaked in the middle with the J- pole in place... water cannot pool on the roof except maybe just a little near the end. Where does the water drip in from? a single point or ???
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Beeswax or bowstring wax works well for the seams. I have used both when I had a pup.
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trying to understand... My vinyl roof is peaked in the middle with the J- pole in place... water cannot pool on the roof except maybe just a little near the end. Where does the water drip in from? a single point or ???
It doesnt drip . It seeps through and looks like droplets all over.then i will wipe them up before they drip. At first i thought it was condensation from over nite sleep with no venting but when it happened after having corner of the screen opened each end and fans blowing each end and no one in the camper i came to the conclusion im stuck on
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