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Old 05-30-2018, 02:57 PM   #1
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Thoughts on downsizing to a Roo

Never started a thread so bear with me a bit but...
We have a Heritage Glen 312qbud currently and are considering downsizing to a Roo 233ss. Most all the posts I see are people going up from a pup to the Roo & they are very happy so I thought I would see if see if anyone who has downsized has any regrets?
Thanks for any thoughts you have!
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Most hybrid owners are former popup owners and know the pros and cons of hybrids.

My advice:
If you've never owned a popup, DON'T buy a hybrid.

I've seen too many(who never owned a popup)who have sold their hybrid after one season.

They bought one for the added sleeping space but weren't in love with sleeping under canvas.
The added maintenance, lack of noise insulation, dealing with temp control, wet canvas and the added setup were never considered in their decision.

Those of us who love hybrids, buy them for the added amenities but want to keep the romance of sleeping under canvas. We are willing to deal with the few negatives.
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We went from a Tent that we used for 1 Trip,to a ROO! We felt "Upgraded" and had lots of Wonderful trips! We just decided for Longer Trips."2-3 Months" that More AREA was needed! We could NOT go smaller or Larger Now! Youroo!!
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im a go big guy. 14, 27, 33, 35, and now 43 with 5 slides. all that in 8 years. Maybe Ill go the other way down the road.
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Most hybrid owners are former popup owners and know the pros and cons of hybrids.

My advice:
If you've never owned a popup, DON'T buy a hybrid.

I've seen too many(who never owned a popup)who have sold their hybrid after one season.

They bought one for the added sleeping space but weren't in love with sleeping under canvas.
The added maintenance, lack of noise insulation, dealing with temp control, wet canvas and the added setup were never considered in their decision.

Those of us who love hybrids, buy them for the added amenities but want to keep the romance of sleeping under canvas. We are willing to deal with the few negatives.
What he said!

I'll add that if you're sleeping as a couple, be prepared for one to have to crawl over the other to get in/out of the bunk. If you're "of a certain age," that could be several times a night.
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Old 05-30-2018, 05:17 PM   #6
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Most hybrid owners are former popup owners and know the pros and cons of hybrids.

My advice:
If you've never owned a popup, DON'T buy a hybrid.

I've seen too many(who never owned a popup)who have sold their hybrid after one season.

They bought one for the added sleeping space but weren't in love with sleeping under canvas.
The added maintenance, lack of noise insulation, dealing with temp control, wet canvas and the added setup were never considered in their decision.

Those of us who love hybrids, buy them for the added amenities but want to keep the romance of sleeping under canvas. We are willing to deal with the few negatives.
I am heavily biased and say "Do it! Do it!" but truthfully I agree with the above.

What I can add about a 233. We had a popup that was totaled in a storm. Went back to tent camping for several years. My old age couldn't stand it anymore, so we bought a hybrid. Why, couldn't really find anything else that sleeps 10 easily, yet tows like a 25 ft trailer. Sleeping under canvas doesn't bother us at all but I can say it does make a great difference in temperature control inside which also doesn't bother us but is something to consider. DW and I do like the option that when we are out without the kids and family, we leave 2 of the bunks folded up. We also camp in lesser developed campgrounds that might have less than 30 ft spots or forest service boondocking so the size of the 233 is perfect.

Coming from popups and tents, we are living in the lap of luxury. From the palace you are downsizing from you may feel a hybrid is a step up from a 1850's covered wagon. As long as you fully understand the short comings of a hybrid, go for it. Otherwise, downsize to a smaller hard side.
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We’ve had everything except for a 5er.

Had a 31-foot quad bunk super slide TT.
Had a 36-foot diesel pusher RV.
Had a pop-up with a dinette slide.
Have our current 21SS.

My wife says it is current her favorite of everything we’ve had and I generally agree. My only hesitation is that we can’t really winter camp with it like we did with our 31-foot TT and the RV. Other than that, it’s great and we enjoy the sleeping experience in the pop-ups and our 21SS much more than anything else because we feel more like we’re camping and part of the outdoors instead of isolated.
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Old 05-30-2018, 08:31 PM   #8
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Thanks for all the tips! We started in a pup so we’re pretty familiar with canvas etc. however bikerdan I believe we use the word romance differently - seems to me romance was a real challenge in the pup lol. In the end there are a lot of benefits to the hybrids and I miss the sounds but there are benefits to dragging a house behind you too. I was just looking for something that we weren’t considering... I reckon this next one certainly isn’t our 1st one and it won’t be the last. Might as well just enjoy all of them! Thanks again!
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Well, go sit in a hybrid that's opened up and see how it feels.
We have a 27' couples TT now.
Our 24' Roo was way more open and we miss the tents.
But we're retired now and a TT fits our 3 month trips better.
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We've had our SV233T for 11 years and still enjoy it. We like the floor plan very much and when it is opened up we really enjoy it. Like most we upgraded from a Coleman Utah PUP and were thrilled. Sure, we had some problems which I was able to fix but overall it's been a great trailer. It is only now we are thinking about moving onto a non hybrid. Only because setting up the bunks are getting more difficult as we get older. I truly enjoy the tent ends once they are setup and there isn't anything else that feels that way. However until we do we will continue to enjoy our SV233T. BTW, we have used PUG'S since we had the trailer and the tent ends are still like new.
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I'm only 70 but when I get older I may downsize to a DP again of about 36'. For now the 43' 5er is perfect for the 2 of us. Had more than enough outside camping in SEA in the '60s.
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Old 06-01-2018, 06:05 PM   #12
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Downsizing

If you follow these blogs you would only pull with a converted Semi and your trailer would span a couple of small states. I suspect the contributors mean well but they aren't living your lifestyle. Look at the type of travel you want to do and where you want to go. A hybrid isn't quite as fast for the stop and flop of cross country travel but the space once setup is great. More noise comes in but that's not an issue in most rural areas.
I downsized a couple of years back - went from a 28 foot TT to a Roo 17. My wife and I are empty nesters and spend time without hookups at the beach. My old trailer had a lot more windows than today's versions but it wasn't nearly as nice in a breeze as the hybrid. We visited by daughter in Akron and with the Roo we could park in her backyard. Made lots of mods in the last couple of years but still love the hybrid choice.
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Old 06-04-2018, 11:11 AM   #13
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Thanks for the suggestions to all!
went ahead and bought a Roo this weekend so we’re giving it a try! We may end at captnjohns 43’ by the time we’re done but for now we’re looking forward to getting back to the tents....
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Thanks for the suggestions to all!
went ahead and bought a Roo this weekend so we’re giving it a try! We may end at captnjohns 43’ by the time we’re done but for now we’re looking forward to getting back to the tents....
Enjoy the Roo. I had all the canvas I ever want to see in a jungle in the '60s. We go all but June-August when it is too crowded. we are often gone 3 weeks to 3 months. I'm old~~ want comfort now and 43' for the 2 of us and a small dog is perfect ~~ FOR US! When I get REAL old I may downsize to a 40' class A again.
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I prefer my folding cot and my wall tent with a woodstove but the wife wants a camper. The hybrid is a nice balance. I keep inviting friends to go so I have a reason to bring the tent as well. Hunting season I use the tent. I kind of wish we had just bought a smaller 5th wheel but we used to tow with a SUV.
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You won't regret buying it, we just wrapped a 3000+ mile trip with our 233s...reflectix and macks ear plugs and you will sleep like any hard sided trailer.

Nothing better than opening the whole thing up and enjoying nature while hard side owners can only peek through little windows...
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You won't regret buying it, we just wrapped a 3000+ mile trip with our 233s...reflectix and macks ear plugs and you will sleep like any hard sided trailer.

Nothing better than opening the whole thing up and enjoying nature while hard side owners can only peek through little windows...
It is what makes you comfy! "Little Windows"? The sq ft of windows in my 5er would cover more than a long side of your unit. Not a fan of being so open to 35 degrees or 95 degrees. Surely not a fan of ear plugs except on the range. Still, everyone has choices and there are many with the same requirements as you and I.
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...there are many with the same requirements as you and I.
I don't know about you but my requeriments change with the wind direction ....
If I was rich I would have several RVs from each style for they all are targeting different requirements.
Since I'm not rich, the one I have (and the previous ones) were always a compromise based on what was the main "requirement" at that time and all of them give us good memories.
I enjoy a lot my current camper big shower and external kitchen but I still miss the canvas and feeling of "camping" of my previous Roo ....
Can't have everything at the same time so let's enjoy one aspect at a time.
By the end, the sunsets will be the same doesn't matter what rig we have...
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I don't know about you but my requeriments change with the wind direction ....
If I was rich I would have several RVs from each style for they all are targeting different requirements.
Since I'm not rich, the one I have (and the previous ones) were always a compromise based on what was the main "requirement" at that time and all of them give us good memories.
I enjoy a lot my current camper big shower and external kitchen but I still miss the canvas and feeling of "camping" of my previous Roo ....
Can't have everything at the same time so let's enjoy one aspect at a time.
By the end, the sunsets will be the same doesn't matter what rig we have...
Agree! The longest we have kept any rig is 4 years, 1 only 4 months and 1 17 Months. I always tried to keep a TT under 32' and 5er under 35'. After 11 months we have found the current 5er most comfortable in and towing at 43'. I just turned 70 and unless downsizing to another 40' class a this will be the last, hopefully!
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Enjoy the Roo. I had all the canvas I ever want to see in a jungle in the '60s. We go all but June-August when it is too crowded. we are often gone 3 weeks to 3 months. I'm old~~ want comfort now and 43' for the 2 of us and a small dog is perfect ~~ FOR US! When I get REAL old I may downsize to a 40' class A again.
By “jungle in the 60’s” I assume you mean Vietnam - I want to Thank you for service! We all owe you a debt of gratitude. May the good Lord bless you all for your sacrifices!
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