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03-25-2014, 09:43 PM
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Air Bags?
When pulling the trailer, the rear end feels a bit soft. Would adding air bags to the rear of the truck eliminate this problem? If so, any recommendations?
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03-25-2014, 09:53 PM
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I added a set to the rear of my f250 and set to around 58psi when towing my Sabre 5er. I really like them.
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03-25-2014, 10:18 PM
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Yes...Air bags will eliminate that feeling and help with many other highway towing annoyances.
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03-26-2014, 06:10 AM
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Engineer of Crazy Train
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Grif76040
When pulling the trailer, the rear end feels a bit soft. Would adding air bags to the rear of the truck eliminate this problem? If so, any recommendations?
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I am assuming that your silverado is a 1500? If so, do you have P rated or LT tires. P rated will feel like you're towing on marshmallows.
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03-26-2014, 06:28 AM
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I am getting ready to install Air Lift bags in the rear of my F150. I have also been advised to pump up the P rated tires to 44 psi to eliminate some of the softness when towing.
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03-26-2014, 06:31 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Teamfour
I am getting ready to install Air Lift bags in the rear of my F150. I have also been advised to pump up the P rated tires to 44 psi to eliminate some of the softness when towing.
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Changing to lt tires will solve the issue.
Filling the tire to max sidewall pressure won't help much if at all.
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03-26-2014, 08:07 PM
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LT tires / Timbren rear Suspension kit, Blue OX stabilizer are some of my prep work.... on my F150 4x4, Factory tow package... felt good bringing my TT home from Ohio to Eastern PA....
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03-26-2014, 08:08 PM
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03-26-2014, 08:24 PM
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Both companies had nearly equal ratings for airbags. I went with Firestone Ride Rite in my 08 Tundra. I did not get a compressor and just plumbed my air lines to my rear license plate. Love having the airbags along with WDH. They were an easy install on the Tundra.
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03-26-2014, 08:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by f1100turbo
Changing to lt tires will solve the issue.
Filling the tire to max sidewall pressure won't help much if at all.
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Pumping to 44#-45# will definitely help, but changing to LT LR D or E tires will solve the problem. Voice of experience.
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03-26-2014, 08:41 PM
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Does moisture in the air cause a problem inside the air bags? it seems you would need a air dryer to remove moisture
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03-26-2014, 08:50 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gee Whiz
Does moisture in the air cause a problem inside the air bags? it seems you would need a air dryer to remove moisture
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I do not see why it would. There are literally hundreds of trucks with Firestone and Air Lift and I have not really heard any bad between either company. In fact, my Firestone Ride-Rite's have a "Limited lifetime warranty on air springs" themselves. No where in the instructions did it mention needing an air dryer or absorbent. Our tires do not require this so not sure why an air spring should.
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03-26-2014, 09:02 PM
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I ran P rated tires on my Ram 1500 pulling a 5th wheel. It was soft so I added Firestone Ride-Rites and that fixed it right up. I never increased the tire pressure when towing, I ran what the door recommended.
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03-26-2014, 09:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fast murray
I ran P rated tires on my Ram 1500 pulling a 5th wheel. It was soft so I added Firestone Ride-Rites and that fixed it right up. I never increased the tire pressure when towing, I ran what the door recommended.
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Boy it sure made the difference on my old Chevy equipped with air bags and P tires even at 45# in all 4 truck tires. Noticed it right away when I went to LR E tires and 55# front and 65# rear.
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03-26-2014, 10:14 PM
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I appreciate all the responses. I checked my tires and yes they are P's. So with that said, it seems that the general consensus is that I need to switch out tires and install some airbags. Now, I like to pay for things as I go and I think my wife might ground me if I go and spend a grand or so and do both at the same time. So which would make the greatest immediate impact, air bags or tires?
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03-26-2014, 10:21 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gee Whiz
Does moisture in the air cause a problem inside the air bags? it seems you would need a air dryer to remove moisture
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they are rubber .....compressed air moisture does about as much to them as compressed air does to your tires....both firestone and airlift offer lifetime warrantys any way so that should say what they think about how long they will last...
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03-26-2014, 10:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Grif76040
I appreciate all the responses. I checked my tires and yes they are P's. So with that said, it seems that the general consensus is that I need to switch out tires and install some airbags. Now, I like to pay for things as I go and I think my wife might ground me if I go and spend a grand or so and do both at the same time. So which would make the greatest immediate impact, air bags or tires?
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I think Old Coot answered that for you already. Change to an LT/E-rated tire and you will notice a world of difference. Air bags will be nice... In fact, just tell your wife it is a safety issue and the fine folks at Forest River Forum recommended them in order to keep your family safe.
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03-27-2014, 12:49 AM
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I installed air lift on my Ram. Got the compressor with wireless remote. Love it. Also they make air bag antifreeze, the big trucks us this in there stuff for extreme cold climate.
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03-27-2014, 09:23 PM
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Interesting on the antifreeze, the manual does not state the need for it but I can completely understand on the big rigs. I do wish I would have sprung for the compressor and in cab or wireless system when I am away from home.
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03-27-2014, 09:30 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DougP47
I installed air lift on my Ram. Got the compressor with wireless remote. Love it. Also they make air bag antifreeze, the big trucks us this in there stuff for extreme cold climate.
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I use to dump a little alcohol in my glad hands on my semi trailer when it got real cold or my brakes would freeze up. I know alcohol may dry stuff out a little, but it also evaporates quickly.
Just an idea
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