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07-19-2007, 04:47 PM
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AKA Bluebird
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Charlottesville, VA
Posts: 1,060
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Backing Setup Maneuver
Backing a trailer onto a campsite is seldom fun. I learned this backing setup maneuver years ago from a tractor trailer driver. It takes little practice and it will help make you a much happier camper. It takes less than five seconds to complete and, obviously, works best on straight roads of reasonable width. You will need to determine one spot (*) on you tow vehicle or trailer; I will explain as we proceed.
Step One: Always approach your campsite with the campsite on the driver’s side of your tow vehicle. This way you can look out the window or in your mirror to see where you are going while backing up. If you approach from the passenger side you are going to have visibility problems.
Step Two: As you approach your campsite, pull over as close as possible to the edge of the left side of the road. By the time you get to the near corner of the campsite your whole rig should be in a straight line behind you, parallel to the side of the road. (Yes, I am well aware that you will be on the wrong side of the road.)
Step Three: As the selected spot (*) on your tow vehicle comes even with the far corner of the lot, turn your wheels quickly and sharply to the right. Almost immediately, before you reach the other side of the road, turn your wheels quickly and sharply to the left so your tow vehicle ends up parallel to the passenger side of the road. Stop immediately – do not try to straighten out the trailer.
* This is the spot on your vehicle or trailer at which you initiate the above maneuver in order to end up in the best possible position to back in. This spot remains “constant” once determined. (You will soon get the hang of making minor adjustments automatically, much at you do when pulling into someone else’s driveway with your car). The exact position of this spot will vary according to the “geometry” of your setup. (The turning circle of the truck, the distance between the front and rear wheels, the distance between the truck axle and the ball, the distance between the ball and the pivot point on the trailer - all will vary from truck to truck and trailer to trailer.) I generally find it to be near the middle of my driver’s door, but that is just for my setup. It can vary quite a bit, according to the parameters outlined above. Don’t worry, it is almost intuitive for most people and, if needed, can be learned very quickly with a couple of traffic cones and an empty parking lot.
Step Four: Look out your window. During the maneuver, your trailer angled across the road and the rear end is now pointed into the lot at something like a 45 degree angle. (I told you not to try to straighten it out. J) You can even see the whole driver’s side of the trailer by sticking your head out the window. Get out and look around. At this point it will be obvious to you if you initiated the right turn (Step Three) too soon or too late. Adjust the spot (*) accordingly.
Step Five: Notice that your tow vehicle and your trailer now form an arc, pointing back into the campsite. (The position should be similar to the one you would be in if you had just pulled the trailer off of the lot to the left and had stopped when the wheels of the trailer had just cleared the lot.)
Part Six: The rest of what you need to do is obvious. The good news is that you are now set up to execute your final backing maneuver. (Placing your spotter at the rear corner of the trailer will allow you to always have them in view and for them to see everything that is behind you.)
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Happy Camping! ///// Richard D.
2006 4x4 Ford 250 SD / 2007 Flagstaff 827 FLS
One very patient wife and one furry child who travels with us. Forty-two years of trailering and camping, and I still have a blast.
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08-03-2007, 08:42 PM
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Cyber Phrenologist
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Southern Crescent
Posts: 1,806
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Took me a minute to visualize all of that...but it seems like it would work. I guess you could do it from the left side IF you really trusted your spotter.
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04-13-2009, 09:22 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: White Hall, AR
Posts: 20
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DH and I understand steps 1 and 2. We got lost on step 3.
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04-14-2009, 04:28 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2007
Posts: 3,260
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The only way I learn how to back up was to go to a large parking lot like Lowe's after hours and practice using one of the islands in the parking lot as a guide to my left side. When you are in the drivers seat it is alot different then watching some from the out side of the tow vehicle. From the out side you can see the entire picture, but from the in side your sight is limited. It will come to you.
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04-14-2009, 10:01 AM
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Site Team
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Southwest Alabama
Posts: 9,850
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Looks like a good plan except for number 1. A lot of the CG's we stay at have one way streets and campsites on both sides. Just switch laft for right and it should work the same.
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Gotta go campin!
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04-14-2009, 06:27 PM
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Knower of Some Things
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Muskegon
Posts: 177
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Too much thinking. I just back the trailer up where it needs to go.
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04-14-2009, 10:09 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Prairieville, Louisiana
Posts: 1,923
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I've been backing my whole life, an I'm good at it.
I guess that's why I haven't progressed.
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05-21-2009, 03:40 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 2
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I also learned this from a truck driving school,visualize a hockey stick,tv is the blade and the tt is the handle. As soon as you reverse your tt is turning onto your site.This works great on narrow roads.try this using parking lot lines at your nearest wal mart you will be surprised how easy and accurrate this is.
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08-06-2009, 01:05 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kilbearcamper
I also learned this from a truck driving school,visualize a hockey stick,tv is the blade and the tt is the handle. As soon as you reverse your tt is turning onto your site.This works great on narrow roads.try this using parking lot lines at your nearest wal mart you will be surprised how easy and accurrate this is.
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True...I drove a truck for 6 years. Backing is easy for me, but can be a pain for others. Big thing is always get out and look if your not sure.
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09-06-2009, 08:30 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kilbearcamper
I also learned this from a truck driving school,visualize a hockey stick,tv is the blade and the tt is the handle. As soon as you reverse your tt is turning onto your site.This works great on narrow roads.try this using parking lot lines at your nearest wal mart you will be surprised how easy and accurrate this is.
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OK, I'm new to this... what is "tv" and what is "tt".
I know it can't be hard just not familar with the abreveations
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09-06-2009, 09:40 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: North Alabama
Posts: 2
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I'm new to I think tv = Tow Vehicle and tt = Travel Trailer.
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09-06-2009, 10:01 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 21
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Quote:
Originally Posted by barrybuck
I'm new to I think tv = Tow Vehicle and tt = Travel Trailer.
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AHHH! Makes sense!
Thanks!
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09-06-2009, 02:34 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Prairieville, Louisiana
Posts: 1,923
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rmgar
OK, I'm new to this... what is "tv" and what is "tt".
I know it can't be hard just not familar with the abreveations
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TV = Tow Vehicle
TT = Traveltrailer
tv = television
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09-06-2009, 02:38 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Prairieville, Louisiana
Posts: 1,923
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A few more RV Abbreviations, Acronyms & Initialisms
4X2 = 2 Wheel Drive
4X4 = 4 Wheel Drive
4WD = 4 Wheel Drive
5er = Fifth Wheel
5ver = Fifth Wheel
AC = Air Conditioning or Alternating Current as in 120VAC
AMP = Amperes
ATF = Automatic Transmission Fluid
BC = Brake Controller
BLM or BOLM = Bureau Of Land Management
BTW = By The Way
CAPS = Capital Letters. Using all CAPS is considered SCREAMING
CC = Crew Cab of a TV (4 Door)
CCC = Cargo Carrying Capacity
CF = Camp Fire
CG = Camp Ground
COE = Corp of Engineers (US Army)
CRS = Can't Remember Shi... Dang CSR, I forgot the next letter
CW = Camping World
D/A = Duramax/Alison (Chevrolet or GMC)
DC = Direct Current as in 12VDC
DH = Darling Hubby or Husband, Dear Hubby, Da%& Hubby, Designated Hitter (baseball)
Dinghy = See Toad
DRW = Dual Rear Wheels
Dooley = Dual Rear Wheels
DS = Dump Station
DSL = Digital Subscriber Line
Dually = Dual Rear Wheels
DP = Diesel Pusher as used in an MH
DW = Dear Wife, Darling Wife, Da%& Wife, Dim Wit, Dish Washer (same as Dear Wife), Darryl Waltrip (NASCAR)
EC = Extended Cab of a TV
EPDM = Ethylene Propylene Diene Monomer (Rubber Roofing)
ERS = Emergency Road Service
ESP = Extended Service Plan
FAQ or FAQs = Frequently Asked Questions
FHU = Full Hook Up
FIVER = 5th Wheel
FT = Full Time
Furry Kids = Pets
FW = Fifth Wheel
FWIW = For What It's Worth
FYI = For Your Information
G8R = Gator
GPS = Global Positioning System or Satellite
GAWR or GAW = Gross Axle Weight Rating
GCVW or GCW = Gross Combined Vehicle Weight
GCWR = Gross Combination Weight Rating
GTWR = Gross Trailer Weight Rating
GVW or GVWR = Gross Vehicle Weight Rating
GOB = Good ol' Boy
HD = Heavy Duty
HH = Happy Hour
HTT = Hybrid Travel Trailer
IBSRV = International Brotherhood/Sisterhood of RVers
IMO = In My Opinion
IMHO = In My Humble Opinion
IP = Internet Provider
ISP = Internet Service Provider (sometimes written DISP = Da$& Internet Service Provider)
HWH = Hot Water Heater (Why would you heat hot water?)
L8R = Later
L8R G8R = Later Gator
LMAO = Laughing My A__ Off
LB = Long Box or Bed of a Tow Vehicle
LOL = Laughing Out Loud , Lots Of Luck, Lots Of Love
LT = Light Truck tires(as in LT245 tires)
MDT = Medium Duty Truck
MOC = Montana Owners Club
MH = Motor Home
MTCW = My Two Cents Worth
NCC = Net Carrying Capacity
NOE - NO L
NPS = National Park Service
OALAEHO = Opinions Are Like A__holes, Everybody Has One
OEM = Original Equipement by the Manufacturer
PDI = Pre-Delivery Inspection
PSD = Power Stroke Diesel (Ford}
PU = Pop Up
PW = Pressure Washer
Qs = Question(s)
RGV = Rio Grande Valley
ROTFLOL = Rolling On The Floor Laughing Out Loud
ROTFLMAO = Rolling On The Floor Laughing My A__ Off
RV = Recreational Vehicle
SB = Short Box or Bed of a Tow Vehicle
SCWR = Sleeping Capacity Weight Rating
SKP = Escapee
SOB = Some Other Brand
SP = State Park
SRW = Single Rear Wheels
ST = Trailer tires (as in ST225)
TC = Truck camper
TH = Toy Tauler
TMI = Too Much Information
TOAD = A vehicle towed behind a MH
TP = Toilet Paper
Trlr = Trailer
TT = Travel Trailer
TV = Tow Vehicle and on a rare occasion TeleVision
TWR/TLR/VLR = Tongue Weight, Tongue Load, Vertical Load Rating
VIN = Vehicle Identification Number (Serial Number)
URL = Uniform Resource Locator (WWW Address)
UVW or UVWR = Unloaded Vehicle Weight Rating
WallyWorld = Wal*Mart
WD or W/D = Washer/Dryer
WD = Weight Distribution (hitch)
WES = Water/Electric/Sewer
Wi-Fi or WiFi = Wireless Fidelity
WWW = World Wide Web (the Internet) And Finally....
HTH = Hope This Helps
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09-11-2009, 09:04 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Aug 2009
Posts: 2
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Here's another tip:
Put your hand at the bottom of the steering wheel. If you want your trailer to go to your left, move your hand to the left. Work great to the right side also
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09-12-2009, 05:32 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Eastlake, Ohio
Posts: 463
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i supppose tv = tow vehicle and tt = travel trailer
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2014 Ford Explorer XLT
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09-24-2009, 07:54 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 1
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Here's one tip that I learned when trying to back up a tiller fire truck. Grip the bottom of the steeringwheel at the bottom with both hands palms up with your thumbs sticking out to either side. Which ever way you want the trailer to go, push the steering wheel in the direction the corresponding thumb is pointing. It's the same as the post above, it's just easier for us firemen.
Onelick
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05-06-2010, 09:04 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Riga, Michigan
Posts: 25
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Thanks! Great method. I especially like the spot * tip.
May I never crunch a trailer fender again! (Oops, did I just admit something?)
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05-07-2010, 08:59 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 107
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dimurrrw
As the selected spot (*) on your tow vehicle comes even with the far corner of the lot, turn your wheels quickly and sharply to the right. Almost immediately, before you reach the other side of the road, turn your wheels quickly and sharply to the left so your tow vehicle ends up parallel to the passenger side of the road. Stop immediately – do not try to straighten out the trailer.
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Say what? If the spot i selected on my tow vehicle is even with the far corner of the lot and I start my turn, aren't I going to end up on someone elses lot? Glad I don't have any problems backing my trailer. Used to drive a semi and currently trailer a boat as well as a very short ATV trailer.
Steering wheel grip? I use one hand on top dead center and when I see more trailer than I want in a mirror, I turn that way to straighten up.
As far as that list of abbreviations goes... you forgot one:
PITA = neighbor with a dog that won't shut up.
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05-07-2010, 04:17 PM
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Member
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Hills of Va.
Posts: 72
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rmgar
OK, I'm new to this... what is "tv" and what is "tt".
I know it can't be hard just not familar with the abreveations
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Tow Vehicle -Tractor Trailer probably.
P/S I drove TT 48 States and Canada 43 years reckon I can can still backup
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