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Old 12-09-2019, 08:26 AM   #61
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Just got my 2 20 pound tanks refilled at the 1000 Trails in Wauchula, Fl. I brought both tanks to the fill area in my Sequoia and placed them on the scale.
The propane operator took them off the scale, read the date, set them on the ground, then proceeded to fill using the gallon meter and venting thru the bleed valve, 1 at a time. One was MT, the other had about a gallon, as the total input was 7.3 gallons.

You can get a bit further Southeast in the US, but not much.
BTW, it was cold here last night, about 50F
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I had a problem with not getting a full tank when filling at my local TS. Other locations were not a problem. We finally discovered when filling at the place with the problem the MH was parked on enough of an incline to put the OPD float in the shutoff position too soon. Solved the problem by replacing the OPD with a straight through fitting and using the overflow vent to determine when full.
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LAHJ (Local authority having jurisdiction , fire marshals, weights and measures etc) determine scale or volume fill. Indiana requires scaling portable tanks but i have had them done both ways.
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I phoned the TS in Wauchula. The person who answered stated they only do ďexchangeĒ.
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Old 12-10-2019, 05:36 AM   #65
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I have mine filled at a local gas station and a place that sells propane and propane accessories.

Both places use a meter and a scale
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LAHJ (Local authority having jurisdiction , fire marshals, weights and measures etc) determine scale or volume fill. Indiana requires scaling portable tanks but i have had them done both ways.
Federal regulations for dispensing and refilling propane tanks are set by the National Fire Protection Agency (NFPA), the Department of Transportation (DOT) and the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA). Individual states and local jurisdictions may vary from federal regulations, so it is important to check with your state for variations. Regulations also vary for other types of propane tanks, including forklift cylinders and installed residential tanks.
Propane tanks can be filled by weight or volume. But according to DOT regulations, propane tanks with less than 200 pounds capacity must be refilled by weight. The proper refilling procedure is detailed in the CETP handbook. While refilling, the propane tank and equipment may not be left unattended. After filling the tank, it should be plugged or capped before transfer to a customer. If the tank has been overfilled, do not give it a customer. Dispensing equipment must be shut down and secured when not in use. Missing or illegible labels on the cylinder must be replaced. Tanks weighing less than 100 pounds must have a customer warning/information label. Tanks that will be shipped must have compliant DOT labels.

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Propane cylinders must be placed upright and properly secured to protect damage to valves and fittings. When loading multiple cylinders, the load must be evenly distributed. Straps, cables or ties should be used to secure the load. The DOT and OSHA require that securing equipment be inspected before each use. Passenger cars and trucks should not carry more than 90 pounds of propane and not more than 45 pounds in one tank, according to NFPA regulations.
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An empty 30 lb tank, scaled, filled to volume by weight, is $14 at Costco. This is Canadian lites, kg's and and Canadian dollars. Seems cheap compare to what some are paying down south.
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An empty 30 lb tank, scaled, filled to volume by weight, is $14 at Costco. This is Canadian lites, kg's and and Canadian dollars. Seems cheap compare to what some are paying down south.
It sure does, $14 canadian is $10.59 US for 7 gallons. Almost doesn't seem possible. That's 1.5/gallon USD.
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It sure does, $14 canadian is $10.59 US for 7 gallons. Almost doesn't seem possible. That's 1.5/gallon USD.
Some RV Dealers near me are close to that price. Kind of a loss-leader to get RV'ers on their lot.
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Okay I took my 30 Pd tank into a local hardware store today. They used a scale to weigh it. This tank was partially full and the guy filling it confirmed this and said it had about 5 gallons in the tank.

So he filled it with the gas hose until it was full.

I ended up paying $23.40 at .90 cents per pound. This seemed cheap to me.

See receipt. How does this equate out to Gallons? I see the national average right now is over $2.00 per gallon.
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Hey David,

Not sure about Iowa, but here in The People’s Republic of California a tank can only be filled to 80%, so if that’s the same in Iowa I would estimate you took 11 gallons to fill your tank for a per gallon price of $2.13, which is a pretty good price in my opinion. I just bought LPG last week for $2.99 per gallon. Looks like you got a bargain.
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Hey David,

Not sure about Iowa, but here in The Peopleís Republic of California a tank can only be filled to 80%, so if thatís the same in Iowa I would estimate you took 11 gallons to fill your tank for a per gallon price of $2.13, which is a pretty good price in my opinion. I just bought LPG last week for $2.99 per gallon. Looks like you got a bargain.
30# is the 80% level and that is only 7.14 gallons.
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Hummm!
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Okay I took my 30 Pd tank into a local hardware store today. They used a scale to weigh it. This tank was partially full and the guy filling it confirmed this and said it had about 5 gallons in the tank.

So he filled it with the gas hose until it was full.

I ended up paying $23.40 at .90 cents per pound. This seemed cheap to me.

See receipt. How does this equate out to Gallons? I see the national average right now is over $2.00 per gallon.
Since there are 4.2# in a gallon of propane, you paid a lot! Almost $4/gallon.


No way it had 5 gallons in it already.
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Hummm!
Weigh your 20# tank and look at the tare weight. Easy to see that a 20# tank takes 20# of propane and a 30# tank takes 30#.
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Hey David,

Not sure about Iowa, but here in The Peopleís Republic of California a tank can only be filled to 80%, so if thatís the same in Iowa I would estimate you took 11 gallons to fill your tank for a per gallon price of $2.13, which is a pretty good price in my opinion. I just bought LPG last week for $2.99 per gallon. Looks like you got a bargain.
I like Hunter56ís answer the best. Iím going to stick with that!
What I do know is compared to my other 30 # tank, which should be full, this tank was very light. $25 to fill it. Iím happy.
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I like Hunter56’s answer the best. I’m going to stick with that!
What I do know is compared to my other 30 # tank, which should be full, this tank was very light. $25 to fill it. I’m happy.
His answer has 11 gallons crammed into something that only holds 7 gallons.


4.2#/gallon x $0.90/# = Almost $4/gallon. More when you add tax. You pay more than what we pay in CA!!!!!....by a LOT! We pay $3/gallon and I thought we were being hosed!!!


Your 30# propane tank should weigh around 55# when full.
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I like Hunter56ís answer the best. Iím going to stick with that!
What I do know is compared to my other 30 # tank, which should be full, this tank was very light. $25 to fill it. Iím happy.
$25 for a 30# outrageous .
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Ok. Live and learn. Paying around $3 a gallon is normal. Hey! Here in the Midwest there is an LP shortage because of the delay in farmers getting their crops in. We probably should have waited 3 weeks when we get to FL.
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The last time I've seen one of these old spring scales used was back in the 60's. In the Pacific Northwest and Alaska LP gas is a metered fuel. Never purchased LP gas in BC or YT, so I can't speak for Canada. Looking at this scale, rusty and sitting out in the weather, I would question the accuracy of it. It probably has more "drift" than seaweed on the ocean.
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