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Old 03-21-2014, 10:02 PM   #41
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Old 03-21-2014, 11:24 PM   #42
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Pushing the button on a smoke detector does NOT check the system! That only checks the battery. You must use smoke or buy a can of spray designed for that purpose. I was on a FD for 10 years. Picked up a few pointers.
While I'm at it, those extinguishers we all carry in our rigs are rated for 30 seconds. Think about that. Yes, we have more than one - like Old Coot.
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Old 03-22-2014, 04:50 AM   #43
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Pushing the button on a smoke detector does NOT check the system! That only checks the battery. You must use smoke or buy a can of spray designed for that purpose. I was on a FD for 10 years. Picked up a few pointers.
While I'm at it, those extinguishers we all carry in our rigs are rated for 30 seconds. Think about that. Yes, we have more than one - like Old Coot.
OL Creeker, your right that it's only for the battery testing .Smoke detectors only have a 10 year life on the sensers. I'd say to do an actual test (or the spray) to see if still works in the real world or just replace it. You can't second guess it when it didn't wake you in the middle of the night.
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OL Creeker, your right that it's only for the battery testing .Smoke detectors only have a 10 year life on the sensers. I'd say to do an actual test (or the spray) to see if still works in the real world or just replace it. You can't second guess it when it didn't wake you in the middle of the night.
Going to take this one step farther. Really deserves a topic of its own, being the op was about extinguishers However, the info should be read.
Ionization alarms are what most of us have in our house. If you are really concerned about waking up in the middle of the night in the event of a fire, do a simple google search on reliability of ionization alarms. Be prepared to read for quite a while. Long story short, there are tons of studies that ionization alarms do not alert to fires in as much as 55.8% of the time. Especially in smoldering fires. Google ionization and photoelectric alarms. I found a 149 page study that will sure open your eyes. There are 4 states that no longer permit the use of ionization in their code....wonder why??? <---sarcasm
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Old 03-22-2014, 07:22 AM   #45
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As I commented on another thread, you don't take a knife to a gun fight. It means you take enough extinguishers to put the fire out. If you don't have enough then get away, call 911 and sit back and watch how fast the trailer will burn. Even if you think you have enough, I would advise you to get away. You have no idea what chemicals can be emitted from a fire in a trailer that will knock you down real fast after one or two breaths. If you want to be able to use an extinguisher, get educated. Go to your local Fire department and ask how to use them and ask what all the letters and numbers stand for. Get out alive and let insurance cover the damage. I put in 35 years as a Firefighter and I'll tell you right now, I'd be on the outside, if lucky enough to get everybody out, warning nearby people in trailers to get out and away also. There are priorities and getting yourself maimed or killed isn't the way to do it. Try getting out the escape window in the bedroom or the ones in the main part of the trailer, to see how easy or hard it will be and remember you won't be under duress. Ok, that's enough pontificating ( what the heck does that mean? ) Just stay safe and always be vigilant.
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In our trailer the bedroom is at one end and the outside door is at the other. We have a small emergency window in the bedroom that neither one of us will ever be able to get out. My wife is terrified of being trapped in a fire. We have 4 dual acting smoke detectors (1 in the bathroom, 1 in the bedroom and 2 in the living area for back up) we have 3 ABC extinguishers ( 2 in bedroom and 1 by kitchen) we have a hatchet in the bedroom closet and in that isn't anal enough I have a Sawzall with a new rip blade with 2 fully charged batteries in the closet by the bed. We may not be able to get out the emergency window exit but the walls are so thin that a rip down each side of the window to the floor and I can just kick it out. The Initial investment is high but the piece of mind is priceless. To all be safe.
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Old 04-17-2014, 10:38 AM   #47
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Actually the 1 to 5lb ABC Dry Chemical is only rated for approximately 8 to 10 seconds of discharge time. I teach Fire Safety and agree with RV PDI GUY on the smoke detectors. The best one is the dual sensor and then buy the 10 year battery. Most fires are the slow smoldering type and the ionization type isn't designed for that, we recommend the dual sensor for homes also. If you wake up during a fire it's not because you smelled the smoke, smoke will put you in a deaper sleep.
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Old 05-18-2014, 09:16 AM   #48
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I am a fire ext. expert. My job for the last 15yrs has been working for a local fire suppression company. I inspect, recharge, and install all types of fire exts. and fire suppression systems. The biggest problem that I have seen is that a lot of RV'S come with a very cheap two and half pound fire ext., most of them don't even have a pressure gage. What I would recommend is to have a least one 5#(lb) ABC fire ext., that is rated 3A40BC, with a pressure gage, pull pin installed, tamper seal holding the pull pin in place. If your fire ext. is a 2 and one-half pound size rated for BC only, you really need to upgrade. BC is not designed to put out a fire of something that will leave a ash. Like WOOD and a lot of other things. PASS stands for 1. Pull the pin. 2. Aim at the base of the fire. 3. Squeeze the handle. 4. Sweep your agent from side to side. Most fires start behind the frig, If you keep your camper at home, don't keep the frig on all the time. Turn it on a day before you plan on using your camper. If for some reason you really want to have the frig in the camper on all the time, go to Walmart and get a small dorm frig, they are less than $100, and save your $2000.00 replacement frig. Less chance for a fire in your rig.
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I don't understand the topic of this thread any longer. Compare the number of RV fires to fires in homes and the point becomes null and void. In any case the point comes down to being prepare in the case of a fire. Have working smoke detectors and an escape plan in place. Don't try to be a hero.
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I don't understand the topic of this thread any longer. Compare the number of RV fires to fires in homes and the point becomes null and void. In any case the point comes down to being prepare
in the case of a fire. Have working smoke detectors and an escape plan in place. Don't try to be a hero.

If you have done things as they need to be done get yourself out and let the insurance co. take care of the rest, that is what you pay them for.
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Yep, Yep...OC said it best - only thing a Fire Extinguisher is good for is opening a path to the door so you can get the hell outta there!

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Yep, Yep...OC said it best - only thing a Fire Extinguisher is good for is opening a path to the door so you can get the hell outta there!

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Old 05-18-2014, 03:43 PM   #54
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That is where Foam shines! That is what the A/F uses to fight Fuel fires of Aircraft! Youroo!!
Speaking of AF and Foam. Coming back from lunch my buddy notices smoke coming out of a hangar in the rearview mirror. We turn around and stop about 10 yards from the doors. There was an F-15 with a fuel barrel sitting under it's nose with flames hugging the side up to the cockpit. No one around. Within seconds the flames more than doubled and I tell my buddy to back the truck up. It took about 5 minutes for a fire truck to show up. The fire truck revved up his engines and when it opened the nozzle to spray the foam it barely squirted out. Another 5 minutes go by and the fire truck could not spray any foam on the aircraft. By now, after a few explosions, the entire aircraft is on fire. By the time the second fire truck showed up, the 15 split in half right behind the cockpit. Best show ever.

Same air base and about a year later. They decided to install automatic foam systems in the hangars.

Overnight the hanger's foam system fails and dumps its entire contents on another F-15. Huge pool of foam.

Lessons learned, like the OP said, make sure your fire extinguisher works.
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Back in the 80's when I was working for Eastern Air Lines in MIA our widebody hangars had auto foam systems in them, including ducts that were plumbed to the interior of the aircraft thru the mid entry doors. The system could detect fire visually as well as smoke detection and for that reason before the planes were brought into the hangar we had to remove the wingtip strobes so as to prevent any possible accidental tripping of the system. As bad luck would have it, an L-1011 got loaded in one night for heavy maintenance and somebody armed the system, next day somebody put power on and strobes were on...
Filled up the hangar in about 60 seconds 20' high
What a mess that was to say the least. At least the interior ducts were not in position.

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When I was operating Heavy Equipment we had Bull Dozers with a fire suppression system mounted on them. They were two 40lbs ABC dry power and one 20lbs hand held.
One day one of my fellow workers was operating the dozer and the automatic system alarm went off and the operator did not hear the 10 second warning alarm to be able to cancel the system or vacate the Cab of the dozer. After the system went off the operator exited the cab looking like the Pillsbury Dough Boy.
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When I was operating Heavy Equipment we had Bull Dozers with a fire suppression system mounted on them. They were two 40lbs ABC dry power and one 20lbs hand held.
One day one of my fellow workers was operating the dozer and the automatic system alarm went off and the operator did not hear the 10 second warning alarm to be able to cancel the system or vacate the Cab of the dozer. After the system went off the operator exited the cab looking like the Pillsbury Dough Boy.
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Back when I was in Tech school in the USAF we were training in a classified underground facility with automatic Halon stations everywhere. We were told by our trainer that you only had second to get out of the facility if you heard a Halon alarm. He had a blast scaring the heebie jeebies out of us with a fake alarm. Talk about having to change underwear.
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A number of years ago when our "C" class was newer, we got a notice from Dometic that a fire hazard recall had been issued on our fridge. As we were about 2 weeks before departure (meeting up with others) I called right away to book an appointment at our RV Dealer. (Long story - short) It took a week to get it in and they had it for a week. I got it back the night before rolling, I went to start the fridge and it didn't work. Fuming .... I was all loaded (family on board) and on their doorstep at 7 am the next morning insisting on "instant" service. They embarrassingly worked on it for 2 hours and replaced parts to the tune of $283 (no labour fee) but, it still wasn't working. I asked to see what they had done. They showed me a metal plate with 4 screws on it and told me they had added it as a flame shield. Now, not only fuming but red faced and boiling, I asked them to remove the shield ..... I reached in and turned on the tiny "screw valve" on the gas supply (Dometic's instructions to me) to the fridge and, of course, it worked. So much time wasted, I paid the bill and left to catch up to our friends. Eventually, the Dealer owner himself satisfied me but learn never to leave a service establishment without ensuring that what it was in for is working. Hard Lesson.
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