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07-03-2020, 09:50 PM
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Furrion Fridge a joke!
Bought a 2020 Cherokee Grey Wolf 23MKBL which features a new all electric Furrion Fridge. Worked great until I put food in it and then the fun began.It wouldn’t go below 50 and I Lost a fridge full of food due to a blown 15Amp in-line fuse. Had to take unit out of wall to fix! STILL won’t go below 50 degrees! Lost another load of food! what a piece of junk! Anybody else had a problem with this china bomb?!
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07-03-2020, 10:01 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Dayton Ohio
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Do you have enough battery? Or on shore power?
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07-03-2020, 10:13 PM
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At a permanent site
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07-04-2020, 05:37 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Jul 2020
Location: WNC
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I just picked up my new TT. I have the same fridge. The freezer seems to get cold enough but the fridge does not seem to get that cold. I have just been checking it with the AC off so I’m not sure if ambient temps have anything to do with it. On max cold, I don’t think it is cold enough either. I need to get a thermometer and check it.
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07-04-2020, 02:18 PM
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Member
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Location: Excelsior Springs
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We bought a 2020 Wildwood 171RBXL and it came with the Everchill 12v refrigerator. It is working great and we love it. We had to turn the refrigerator section warmer because it was freezing food. The freezer section stays below zero. At first, we were a little hesitant about it because I hadn't had any experience with the 12v, but it worked out great. I'm sorry the Furrion isn't working as well.
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07-04-2020, 02:32 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Reno, NV
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Slightly off topic, but what's up with 12 volt fridges in new RV's?
Is the decades old propane ammonia absorption technology fading away?
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07-04-2020, 02:41 PM
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Site Team
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Location: Goodyear, Arizona
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Quote:
Originally Posted by upflying
Slightly off topic, but what's up with 12 volt fridges in new RV's?
Is the decades old propane ammonia absorption technology fading away?
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I've hope not! I would never have a 12v fridge. Have been using propane/110v fridges for over 25 years and never had any issues.
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07-04-2020, 04:37 PM
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Member
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Excelsior Springs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by upflying
Slightly off topic, but what's up with 12 volt fridges in new RV's?
Is the decades old propane ammonia absorption technology fading away?
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When I was shopping for a smaller travel trailer a few weeks ago I noticed a lot of them are coming with 12v only refrigerators now. The one I bought had the 12v Everchill. Some of the others we looked at had Furrion. I did some research and found that 12v refrigerator technology is old and has a good reputation. I have been very happy with our Everchill. It keeps the freezer below zero and will freeze food in the refrigerator if I turn it high enough (4 out of 5). I run it on 3 out of 5 and it stays 33 to 40 degrees. There is a whole lot more room in it compared to the one in my 5th wheel that has the typical electric/propane unit. I was surprised and disappointed to read that the Furrion does not appear to work as well.
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07-04-2020, 04:42 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Crossville,TN
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Yes, the industry is trying to push out the LPG refers due to the fire hazards associated with them. A couple of companies are pushing new 12Vdc compressor refers now. Dometic being one of them.
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07-04-2020, 05:37 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2015
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If the industry is moving away from propane I would believe it is because of the cost . RV electric/propane refrigerators have been very safe for many decades . These new electric refrigerator are half the cost .
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07-04-2020, 05:40 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: California
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I will definitely be switching to a 12V compressor fridge when the time comes. More room in the fridge and less problems when its 90 degrees out or more. Compressor fridges have been around for decades.
Will there be people that have issues like the OP...possibly...are there likely more issues with an absorption fridge...most definitely!
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07-04-2020, 06:13 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Crossville,TN
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When a $500 fridge destroys a $300K RV it's cost problem, you're right.
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46 Years RVing and no end in sight.
2018 Ram 3500 SB Limited, CC, 6.7/Aisin, 4X4, SRW. Comfort Ride Energy Absorbing Hitch.
2020 Cedar Creek Hathaway 34IK, Reese 19K Sidewinder PB.
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07-04-2020, 06:47 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: Gainesville, FL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bikendan
I've hope not! I would never have a 12v fridge. Have been using propane/110v fridges for over 25 years and never had any issues.
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Not an argument against your choice but, as battery technology evolves, I think that will become less of a concern.
I will not be surprised if Li-compatible converter/chargers are not standard equipment, soon.
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07-04-2020, 07:26 PM
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Georgia Rally Coordinator
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: GA
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Your all dreaming as the duel frigs are not on there way out. one needs to look at maybe ordering a camper and getting what you want that's what I did and my dometic frig works great. Later RJD
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07-04-2020, 07:53 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Goodyear, Arizona
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chriscowles
Not an argument against your choice but, as battery technology evolves, I think that will become less of a concern.
I will not be surprised if Li-compatible converter/chargers are not standard equipment, soon.
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Maybe when lithium batteries cost what SLA batteries cost now.
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07-04-2020, 08:11 PM
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Senior Member
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Location: Gainesville, FL
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bikendan
Maybe when lithium batteries cost what SLA batteries cost now.
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In terms of lifetime cost per cycle, they're getting there.
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07-04-2020, 08:23 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2018
Location: Baraboo, WI
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I camp mostly without an hookups. As long as I can get a propane fridge, there will be one in my camper. My Norcold did me well on out 4 week trip last summer with temps above 90 in the daytime. The fridge stayed nice and cold all day long.
How much solar would you need to keep a 12 volt only fridge running for days on end without hookups???
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07-04-2020, 08:28 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: California
Posts: 7,616
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BarabooBob
How much solar would you need to keep a 12 volt only fridge running for days on end without hookups???
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I already have it plus probably excess. 700W and 2 BB batteries.
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07-05-2020, 12:10 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: KS
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Quote:
Originally Posted by babock
I already have it plus probably excess. 700W and 2 BB batteries.
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Would a residential fridge be more or less efficient? Not sue what the power consumption would be compared to the inverter load. I am sure the inverter is less efficient but with a compressor Vs whatever they are using on the 12v side could make it more interesting.
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07-05-2020, 12:39 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Space Coast of Florida
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dbledan
Would a residential fridge be more or less efficient? Not sue what the power consumption would be compared to the inverter load. I am sure the inverter is less efficient but with a compressor Vs whatever they are using on the 12v side could make it more interesting.
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Interesting question.. I haven’t researched 12 volt compressor refrigerators and don’t know what their power consumption is. I have a residential fridge and have used my Victron battery monitor to measure all the loads in our 5th wheel.
My fridge, when the compressor is on, draws 8.50 amps from the battery. The fridge normally only runs less than 30-40% of the time.
The kicker is that the inverter in our 5th wheel draws 1.80 amps in standby (waiting for fridge compressor to kick on). I’m sure when the fridge is cooling that 1.8 amps is included in the 8.50 amps for the fridge.
That is a significant draw when boondocking. If the sun stops the solar charging and gen hours don’t let you run you could be 10 hours or more before starting a charge cycle. In that time, the inverter just waiting to work, has used at least 18 amp/hrs of the battery capacity. If you have a 200+ amp hour golf cart battery setup that is about 20% of your battery capacity just for the inverter to be on.
What is the power consumption of a 12 volt compressor?
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