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Old 07-25-2016, 03:52 PM   #41
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yes, sagging is the first issue I want to get rid of, I have ordered air lift 1000, hopefully, after adding air bags, the sagging will be gone (or at least at acceptable level).

I am also thinking to add WDH as well, as recommended by so many people, I would like to add it so that I can have a little more peace of the mind down the road. yes, the minivan will still be overloaded, but at least the load is more evenly distributed to front and back. but after reading some spec on WDH, I realize that most of WDH's requires the bar to be mounted at 27"-30" from the coupler, while on my trailer, the perfect location is currently occupied by the two LP tanks, the tank support is welded to the frame, it doesn't seem a easy modification to relocate the tanks. the only open place is about 36" away from coupler. I am looking for any WDH which can be located between 36"-42" away from coupler. does anyone have any recommendation? thanks.
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Old 07-25-2016, 03:56 PM   #42
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I do not know of any WDH that has a set point for the bars that far back. You might have to get one and drill through the frame to mount it.
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Old 07-25-2016, 04:30 PM   #43
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When Nolan's installed the Equalizer E2 (600/6000) on our A122 (has a very short a-frame for a short overall length), the propane tanks had to be lifted an inch to fit the L-brackets. Even then, the brackets are only 26" from the coupler. Which was the reason Nolan's gave for upsizing from the E2 400/4000 model.

I'm not sure if the original LP tank tray supports were welded or not. I know the spacers to raise the tank tray are welded. Nolan's even repainted the affected areas after the welding. The whole job of installing and setting up the Equalizer took over an hour.

I think I got a bargain at $330 installed - they didn't want to lose the camper sale because my minivan wouldn't tow for squat without the WDH.

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Old 07-25-2016, 06:59 PM   #44
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I have the Equalizer E2 600/6000 WDH/anti-sway. The Equalizer WDH uses WDH bars that slide on L-brackets mounted on the trailer for anti-sway. It can easily turn or back just about as well as without the bars installed. It will groan - sometimes loudly - as the bars slide in the brackets in low speed turns. There are covers available to reduce the noise that I have never bothered with. The groan as I turn out of my driveway or campsite tells me all is working as designed. No noise above about 30MPH - and no sway,
Just a side note that I read on the Equalizer web site: Equalizer does not recommend the noise reducing bracket covers with the E2 since this is a 2 point sway control and those covers would reduce the effectiveness of that sway control. They are really meant for the E4 hitch which can handle that due its 4 point sway control design.
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Old 07-25-2016, 09:13 PM   #45
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Take a pic or two of the propane tank area if you can and sent it over. My propane tank supports were sort of in the way. I was able to work around it. Like to Them quick Thanks.
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Take a pic or two of the propane tank area if you can and sent it over. My propane tank supports were sort of in the way. I was able to work around it. Like to Them quick Thanks.
Please see the pictures attached, it seems all jammed.
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Looking at the pictures you might have a hard time getting your WDH hooked up. I wonder if you could take it to a local welder and see it they might have a idea of how to mount the tank holder. Might be a easy solution to a difficult situation. They may be able to remove the holder and relocate it. You may lose a little room for storage on the rack but it may work. What's the worse they could say, no. If it were me that's what I would at least try just to give you options and cost. Good luck

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Equal-i-zer's instructions say the L brackets have to be in the range of 27" to 32" from the center of the coupler. If you can't get them to fit I wonder if you can move the propane tank tray forward or back? I found this pic showing the platform for mounting the propane tray.
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Equal-i-zer's instructions say the L brackets have to be in the range of 27" to 32" from the center of the coupler. If you can't get them to fit I wonder if you can move the propane tank tray forward or back? I found this pic showing the platform for mounting the propane tray.
What's the crank for?
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It's a popup so it's likely to raise and lower the roof.
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Old 07-26-2016, 08:24 PM   #51
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It's a popup so it's likely to raise and lower the roof.
Ah. Mine was in the body of the popup. I don't think I've ever seen a crank that far away from the camper body.
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Old 07-26-2016, 08:52 PM   #52
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Check out the Andersen WDH system. You can get chain extensions that would get the brackets past the tank tray. Best of luck.

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Old 07-27-2016, 10:35 AM   #53
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Equal-i-zer's instructions say the L brackets have to be in the range of 27" to 32" from the center of the coupler. If you can't get them to fit I wonder if you can move the propane tank tray forward or back? I found this pic showing the platform for mounting the propane tray.
I took a measurement last night, it didn't seem enough to open up the notches for WDH mounting even having the tanks & tray against the deck railing. if it were a single tank, it could be possible to have tank siting in the middle and cut the tray out at the notches location or replaced with a single tank tray. but I am hesitate to get rid of one tank as it makes life much easier to have two tanks. another option is to have both tanks & tray relocated to the front deck.
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Old 07-27-2016, 11:26 AM   #54
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Check out the Andersen WDH system. You can get chain extensions that would get the brackets past the tank tray. Best of luck.

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thanks, I will definitely check the chain extension.
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Old 07-28-2016, 02:41 PM   #55
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I had the same issue with the blue ox. I only have one tank, but I took it off and set up the WDH mount. The corner of the tank sat on that. I added a small plastic piece on the opposite side. I notched it, so the tank rim sits tight in the plastic piece. Then I tightened it down. And it has been good to go and hasn't moved over the last 1000 miles. Good luck.
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Old 08-05-2016, 09:17 AM   #56
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just want to give a update.

I have installed air lift 1000, it raises up the rear of the car about 2"-3" which makes big difference to minimize the potential bottom-out.

Last weekend, we went camping in mountains for 4 days, towing was great even through mountain uphills, slow for sure, but do not notice that much difference, Sienna power seems just fine.

During the camping, I was not happy for the grey water drain design, there are two grey water connections, one for sink and another one for shower, they are separately located on different side of the trailer. After checked other threads, I made a modification yesterday, tied the two drain connections together. will try out next weekend when we are out for camping trip. Below are how they look before and after.
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Old 08-05-2016, 09:51 AM   #57
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Nice mods, did basically the same thing on my 228 BH. Getting mine ready for trip in 4 weeks.

Glad all you towing questions figured out and it all worked out for you.
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Did you get a WDH or are the air bags enough?
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Old 08-07-2016, 08:12 AM   #59
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No WDH yet, air bags seem enough. Will see after couple trips more.
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Don't forget to take your setup to a CAT scale to see your actual weights when ready to camp, all 5 passengers onboard and a full tank of gas in the Sienna. I'm pretty sure you'll be over your GVWR but by how much? It's a Toyota so it's built well but just make sure you're not overweight by too much. As I said in my earlier post, my '05 Sienna did fine with a similar setup.

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