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Old 06-16-2023, 06:33 PM   #1
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9ft white pole what is it for?

Hello, we have a new 277 rockwood hw popup.
We have a 8ft white pole with a Spring loaded niple at one end and just a black cap at the other. So have said maybe for the Thruwe awning but its white like all the poles in the interior. Dealership as no idea. Nice! Lol help please.
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Old 06-16-2023, 07:12 PM   #2
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Pictures would be helpful. I have no idea what you would need an 8ft pole other than touching stuff with it you would not otherwise touch......
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Old 06-16-2023, 07:40 PM   #3
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Old 06-16-2023, 07:41 PM   #4
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Old 06-17-2023, 09:01 AM   #5
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8ft pole dont were it goes! Help

Hello all, I posted a message stating I have a 277 hw rockwood popup camper. I love it the problem is we have this pole attached but don't what it for! I thought maybe the awning but the holes to place it don't match and it's looks like the interior poles for extending the wings.The dealership can't even tell me ! Nice hu! Lol help!
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Old 06-17-2023, 09:31 AM   #6
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Is it for holding the canvas up on the pop-out so water doesn't pool on the canvas. I seem to remember something similar in our PUPs, but it's been a long time ago.
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Is your 277 HW brand new or used? I would say that's an awning pole but not for your pop-up model. If you have a used pop-up, have you checked your awning & fully deployed it? The previous owner might have damaged a pole and would jimmy-rig it with the pole pictured. I have the HW27KS, which is the flagstaff sister to yours, there is nothing close to that pole that goes on the inside.
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Pictures would be helpful. I have no idea what you would need an 8ft pole other than touching stuff with it you would not otherwise touch......

I believe that requires a 10 ft pole...
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Thank you but brand new!
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My experience with a 2014 HW 277...

The tent end hoops had sockets top center. Those sockets received a plain-end of the tent support that connected to the ceiling in the cabin. But the pipe had a bit of a shepherd's hook on the end to engage a multi-step clip mounted to the ceiling. So your pole does not appear to serve that function.

If it were an awning pole, there would be two of them. Not only that, but awning poles in bag awnings all nest in the awning frame at the end of the awning. And they need to be adjustable.

If it were a bed end support, there would be two of each size. and they would be much sturdier...no slip joint in the middle, because the beds are heavy...especially when loaded with people.

I don't think it's used for extra support for the canvas on the slide, because of the sharp plunger end...and the main canvas support also goes into a socket on the hoop and has a shepherd's hook on the cabin end.

So, with those things ruled out, one option comes to mind...but it's a stretch. Is there a soft "tee" end that this might slip into? I ask because I ended up buying a tool to help tuck the canvas. I'm 6'6" but we lifted our rig for boondocking, and this made tucking the canvas a difficult chore. My "rug rake" handle extends, so I could tuck canvas very easily from the ground, rather than climbing on the A-Frame or rear bumper and putting my body under the partially closed roof. I highly recommend this tool. The first time you're tucking wet canvas in the rain and standing on the steel bumper or A frame...wondering if you'll slip off and break your neck...you'll be glad you have it.

If you don't have another part that snaps onto that pin at the end of the pole, my hunch is that the pole was added by mistake. Just a mistake in finish assembly.

Obviously, things change in 9 years, but I'm not aware of any tent-end pole on any PUP that doesn't have some sort of shepherd's hook on the end to engage the bracket on the ceiling inside the cabin. And the cap on the end defeats that purpose anyway.

Sorry I couldn't be more helpful about the mystery pipe.

P.S. If you plan to boondock, this rig sits very low. I lifted mine because I smashed the stairs over and over again. I installed the torsion axle lift kit, fixed the stairs, and never grounded them again. You might also want to support your freshwater tank. Pix show the stairs (pre lift), the fresh tank support that's an easy add on this rig, and the same photo shows the lift kit on the curb side of the rig. That goofy looking support is just 3/4" galvanized water pipe, plywood, and a rubber floor mat, but it worked great. My first fresh tank developed a big crack from lack of support. If you have the same "looms" for routing propane plumbing and other features, you might be able to replicate.

Also, if you plan to boondock...dry camp...let me know. I had a great basic solar setup on my PUP, and, with judicious power use, I could go to bed with a fully recharged battery each night...without using the generator except on rainy days.
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Old 06-19-2023, 11:06 PM   #11
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My experience with a 2014 HW 277...

The tent end hoops had sockets top center. Those sockets received a plain-end of the tent support that connected to the ceiling in the cabin. But the pipe had a bit of a shepherd's hook on the end to engage a multi-step clip mounted to the ceiling. So your pole does not appear to serve that function.

If it were an awning pole, there would be two of them. Not only that, but awning poles in bag awnings all nest in the awning frame at the end of the awning. And they need to be adjustable.

If it were a bed end support, there would be two of each size. and they would be much sturdier...no slip joint in the middle, because the beds are heavy...especially when loaded with people.

I don't think it's used for extra support for the canvas on the slide, because of the sharp plunger end...and the main canvas support also goes into a socket on the hoop and has a shepherd's hook on the cabin end.

So, with those things ruled out, one option comes to mind...but it's a stretch. Is there a soft "tee" end that this might slip into? I ask because I ended up buying a tool to help tuck the canvas. I'm 6'6" but we lifted our rig for boondocking, and this made tucking the canvas a difficult chore. My "rug rake" handle extends, so I could tuck canvas very easily from the ground, rather than climbing on the A-Frame or rear bumper and putting my body under the partially closed roof. I highly recommend this tool. The first time you're tucking wet canvas in the rain and standing on the steel bumper or A frame...wondering if you'll slip off and break your neck...you'll be glad you have it.

If you don't have another part that snaps onto that pin at the end of the pole, my hunch is that the pole was added by mistake. Just a mistake in finish assembly.

Obviously, things change in 9 years, but I'm not aware of any tent-end pole on any PUP that doesn't have some sort of shepherd's hook on the end to engage the bracket on the ceiling inside the cabin. And the cap on the end defeats that purpose anyway.

Sorry I couldn't be more helpful about the mystery pipe.

P.S. If you plan to boondock, this rig sits very low. I lifted mine because I smashed the stairs over and over again. I installed the torsion axle lift kit, fixed the stairs, and never grounded them again. You might also want to support your freshwater tank. Pix show the stairs (pre lift), the fresh tank support that's an easy add on this rig, and the same photo shows the lift kit on the curb side of the rig. That goofy looking support is just 3/4" galvanized water pipe, plywood, and a rubber floor mat, but it worked great. My first fresh tank developed a big crack from lack of support. If you have the same "looms" for routing propane plumbing and other features, you might be able to replicate.

Also, if you plan to boondock...dry camp...let me know. I had a great basic solar setup on my PUP, and, with judicious power use, I could go to bed with a fully recharged battery each night...without using the generator except on rainy days.
Thanks so much with your ideas!!
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I believe that requires a 10 ft pole...
You beat me to it!
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Old 06-21-2023, 01:58 PM   #13
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I believe that requires a 10 ft pole...
Or in the case of Dr. Seuss and a certain green character...

A 39-and-a-half foot pole
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Old 06-21-2023, 05:13 PM   #14
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I think its the awning center canvas pole
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Old 06-21-2023, 05:37 PM   #15
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Thanks for responding but its not. Its light weight like the interior poles .
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Old 06-22-2023, 06:03 PM   #16
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They look like tarp posts
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Old 06-24-2023, 07:02 AM   #17
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No surprise the dealer doesn't know. I'd also be willing to bet the paperwork that came with it doesn't have anything on it either. If the part has no part number on it then I'd contact customer support at the manufacturers I'm sure someone there knows what it is.
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Old 06-24-2023, 08:32 AM   #18
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On one of our pups there were two like this. The nipple end fit into a hole in the bow pole at the end of the bed. The open bottom end fit into a nasty looking metal bracket with several tabs allowing for nomial adjustment to tighten the end.

Does your pup already have something like that supporting the bed fabric?
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Old 06-24-2023, 08:52 AM   #19
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Your Exactly right.!! And yes I did just get intouch with the manufacturer and there researching and asked for my Vin number. So hopefully I'll get an answer! Thanks for your help!
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Old 06-24-2023, 08:53 AM   #20
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Nope theirs no area for that! Thanks for your suggestions!
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