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08-27-2019, 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by HappyCamperCanada
7-year extended warranty including roadside assistance. I'm ready
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Yeah...saw a guy with a flat tire that couldn't do it himself back at Kings Canyon National Park. I think the wait was going to be close to 4 hours.
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08-27-2019, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by babock
Yeah...saw a guy with a flat tire that couldn't do it himself back at Kings Canyon National Park. I think the wait was going to be close to 4 hours.
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but then better then getting flatten like a pancake safe then sorry and alive.
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08-27-2019, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by cfo111
but then better then getting flatten like a pancake safe then sorry and alive.
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With a motorhome maybe but we are talking about a single axle trailer here! We are in the tent campers and pop up section.
The guy I saw that was going to wait 4 hours had a 22' trailer. Multiple people offered to help but he didn't want it.
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08-27-2019, 02:27 PM
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remember some can't tell a screw driver from a adjustable wrench so beware.
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08-27-2019, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by cfo111
remember some can't tell a screw driver from a adjustable wrench so beware.
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Truth!
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08-28-2019, 08:32 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cfo111
remember some can't tell a screw driver from a adjustable wrench so beware.
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And a lot of them seem to drive tow trucks.
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08-28-2019, 08:51 AM
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This thread shows why you should try out your tools in the driveway before leaving home.
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08-28-2019, 08:58 AM
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So where exactly is it safe to place the jack on a PuP? I'm assuming nowhere on the frame since pup frames aren't heavy duty and could possibly bend? Is placing it on the axle safe? I'd be afraid that the road assistance guy would know zero about jacking up a PuP trailer and damage something.
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08-28-2019, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by HappyCamperCanada
So where exactly is it safe to place the jack on a PuP? I'm assuming nowhere on the frame since pup frames aren't heavy duty and could possibly bend? Is placing it on the axle safe? I'd be afraid that the road assistance guy would know zero about jacking up a PuP trailer and damage something.
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Not in the span of the axle. Never.
You would want to be right at the U bolt location, at the inside edge of the tire. This is where the axle meets the springs and where it's designed to take a bearing as you bounce down the roads. If you jack here, your golden.
The span of tubing between the spring pads is not in any way designed to support the kinds of stress applied by attempting to lift the unit.
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08-28-2019, 10:04 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rockfordroo
This thread shows why you should try out your tools in the driveway before leaving home.
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10-4 on this
Confession: A few weeks ago I decided I was going to do a bearing job I have been putting off for months. I got my 12T tall bottle jack out and proceeded to locate the jacking location on the axle. I chose the U-bolt as my contact point. I had a jack stand to put under the axle for safety. I had to raise the jack about 6" to contact the u-bolt(I had eyeballed/measured before I bought the RV jack) and started to raise her up. I proceeded to jack it up setting on front landing gear, rear stabilizers barely loaded and the popping and other noises scared me off. I stopped and put my stuff away. A couple weeks later I actually did the job with success and was happy about it.
I now know how to jack it up without great fear. I am glad I did complete the mission in the driveway as on the side of the road would have been worse.
Moral of the story is.... Do a trial jack in a safe place.
Disclosure: I carry a Trailer Aid and bottle jack and some hunks of wood. My trailer has the 4X4 option I guess as it is "high off the ground".
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08-28-2019, 10:35 AM
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So, to be sure, place the jack where the red arrow is pointing in the pic below?
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08-28-2019, 10:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HappyCamperCanada
So, to be sure, place the jack where the red arrow is pointing in the pic below?
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Or if your jack is low profile enough, place on the U-bolt plate directly. That would the very safest and best option.
But going where you pointed to, directly beside the plate, that is also safe and a non issue.
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08-28-2019, 11:24 AM
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The previous pic was just a stock photo. Here's my actual trailer. Premier 2514g. No U bolt. Looks like I could get the jack in where the arrow is pointing though which would be ok?
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08-28-2019, 11:32 AM
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Remember one thing you may know how, but there are many stupid people on the roads who may take out you permanently. Safety should be you first and only thought before you tackle it. Dead right isn't just a saying.
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08-28-2019, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by cfo111
Remember one thing you may know how, but there are many stupid people on the roads who may take out you permanently. Safety should be you first and only thought before you tackle it. Dead right isn't just a saying.
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Oh, I'd still call roadside assistance (since it's included in my warrant). But I would make sure to show him where the jack point is so he didn't try jacking up the frame.
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08-28-2019, 12:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HappyCamperCanada
The previous pic was just a stock photo. Here's my actual trailer. Premier 2514g. No U bolt. Looks like I could get the jack in where the arrow is pointing though which would be ok?
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EDIT: Your just talking about a tire change, so yes. Jack there, swap tires/wheels and lower.
That would be the safest place because your concentrating your force in between the inside and outside edges of the bracket that is totally designed to support the full load of that side of the axle. The problem with that axle you have to jack way up there to allow the tire to eventually lift since you have that suspension style. you aren't going hurt the square tubing though. The problem is that you are using the jack on the location that I would like to have the jack stands.
I think If I had that style, I would measure the tube height required to get the tire clear of the earth, then I would build a simple wooden plate ramp to drive the tire up so that the axle tube was at or above that measured height. Then I would state a jack stand there, and place a hydraulic jack just to the inside edge of the bracket and lift the tube enough to remove the tire and then set that jack stand under in the arrowed location so that I would lower onto your shown arrow location so that stand that was right in the center of the bracket. It would take some fanageling, but it would get you off of the springs, tires off of the ground and on a solid steel and very stable base.
You would then reverse that procedure in the spring to get rubber back on it.
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08-28-2019, 06:37 PM
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Interestingly, my Premier 2514g owner's manual says to use the frame...
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08-30-2019, 02:09 PM
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Are you really ready for a flat tire?
Quote:
Originally Posted by HappyCamperCanada
The previous pic was just a stock photo. Here's my actual trailer. Premier 2514g. No U bolt. Looks like I could get the jack in where the arrow is pointing though which would be ok?
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The original poster of this jack placement pic was sent to Dexter asking if the arrow pointing to the yellow circle was the correct spot for jack placement and Dexter replied with “jack goes here” in pink.
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08-30-2019, 03:49 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by HappyCamperCanada
So, to be sure, place the jack where the red arrow is pointing in the pic below?
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I would be inclined to place the jack under the plate of the shackle.
Best not to jack the axle tube.
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08-30-2019, 05:31 PM
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Are you really ready for a flat tire?
Bottle jack, compressor, generator, impact wrench with sockets that fit my lug nuts , tire repair kit, and assorted other tools, and last but not least- a roadside assistance rider on my insurance so I don't have to use any of the above.
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