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Old 02-22-2024, 01:40 PM   #1
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Electric brakes

Hello all. We have a 2021 Flagstaff MAC 176LTD and I知 having a hard time finding out if I can get electric brakes installed. I知 getting a new vehicle, but not something big and a few that I致e looked at can haul my small pop up but towing capacity goes up a good bitch if I have brakes on the trailer. Just wondered if someone here knows before I keep digging. THANK YOU!
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Old 02-22-2024, 02:00 PM   #2
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If your handy shouldn't be an issue start here,

https://www.etrailer.com/dept-pg-Tra...-3500_lbs.aspx

If you're not handy likely not worth the effort.
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Old 02-22-2024, 02:29 PM   #3
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The first thing is to determine why type and capacity axle you have, then search for the brake assemblies and drums accordingly. Does your tow vehicle have a 7 pin connector? If you don't have brakes on the Flagstaff MAC 176LTD you will have to add wiring and a 7 pin inter-vehicular cable.
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I wonder about surge brakes in a case like this?
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My trailer has a 2990# (isn’t that convenient) GVWR, so the manufacturer escaped putting brakes on it. As noted above, find out the axle model/rating and your wheel size. I mounted the compatible brake backing plates, the drums, the wiring, the brake away battery box, break away switch, and 6 pin connector. Was a fair amount of work, but it works fine and I’m glad I did it.

If you already have a 7-pin connector on your tow vehicle, stay with that. You can go 6 pin if you want because the extra wire is the reverse light signal, which you probably have no use for.
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Moved thread from the Tech and Repair section to the Tent Camper and Popup section since the OP is asking for specific information on their popup.
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Old 02-22-2024, 05:20 PM   #7
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I wonder about surge brakes in a case like this?
Surge brake kits are out there on the market.
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Surge brake kits are out there on the market.
Exactly. If they are rated for the weight and would fit. Why not. Cheaper and easier to install!

Just saying.
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Exactly. If they are rated for the weight and would fit. Why not. Cheaper and easier to install!

Just saying.
Think so? Have to bend, cut and flare the hydraulic lines, along with bleeding them, vs cut and splice some wire strapped down with tie wraps.
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Think so? Have to bend, cut and flare the hydraulic lines, along with bleeding them, vs cut and splice some wire strapped down with tie wraps.
The surge brake also needs to have a good mechanical lock out so the trailer can be backed up, and/or a lockout solenoid that triggers off the vehicle reverse lights. Some designs are better than others.
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Think so? Have to bend, cut and flare the hydraulic lines, along with bleeding them, vs cut and splice some wire strapped down with tie wraps.
In my research thinking about converting to disc brakes I see more than one company offering flexible line kits. Pre made to whatever length you want.
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use flexible lines at your own risk
keep them as short as possible

metal lines are used on cars/trucks cause there is no expansion when you press the brakes.
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I’ll climb under and try to get some identification. I just went out and looked….it looks like DRUM BRAKES each wheel?
My pop up does have a 7 pin connector.. does that mean I already have brakes or are the drums just the emergency brake?
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the forest river web site lists electric brakes in the standard features for the 176LTD.

so i would think your camper has them....
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I値l climb under and try to get some identification. I just went out and looked.it looks like DRUM BRAKES each wheel?
My pop up does have a 7 pin connector.. does that mean I already have brakes or are the drums just the emergency brake?
No need for a 7 pin unless you have brakes. All trailer lighting can be done with a 4 wire flat. Bet you have an emergency brake box on the front also.
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If you have drums and a 7 pin connector, then you have electric brakes.
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I’ll climb under and try to get some identification. I just went out and looked….it looks like DRUM BRAKES each wheel?
My pop up does have a 7 pin connector.. does that mean I already have brakes or are the drums just the emergency brake?
I don’t know you or your level of towing knowledge, so just to be clear, even if the trailer has electric brakes installed, they won’t help you stop unless the tow vehicle has a brake controller.

The breakaway device, if in proper working order, will stop the trailer if it detaches from the tow vehicle, regardless of a brake controller presence.
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Old 02-23-2024, 11:28 AM   #18
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use flexible lines at your own risk
keep them as short as possible

metal lines are used on cars/trucks cause there is no expansion when you press the brakes.
Yes. I get that. Hydraulics 101. You could barely even measure that in a 3/6 10 foot long line. Besides I only offered it as an alternative and e trailer and others do sell them. That was my only point.

Isn稚 everything at our own risk?
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Yeah…thank you!
Sometimes it’s a bit confusing looking up the model, because there are different features on different 176 LTDs. But when I climbed under the cover on the ground last night, I can see a drama on both sides, and I do have one of those breakaway breaks. I’m guessing to have that you would have breaks, but it looks like they are there. I think I was just looking for discs earlier. So I’m guessing I have brakes but I don’t know how the brake controller works… Just through the seven pin? Or should I have a separate controller??��
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Yeahthank you!
Sometimes it痴 a bit confusing looking up the model, because there are different features on different 176 LTDs. But when I climbed under the cover on the ground last night, I can see a drama on both sides, and I do have one of those breakaway breaks. I知 guessing to have that you would have breaks, but it looks like they are there. I think I was just looking for discs earlier. So I知 guessing I have brakes but I don稚 know how the brake controller works Just through the seven pin? Or should I have a separate controller??��
What痴 your tow vehicle? And does it have a 7 pin connector near the trailer hitch?

Many vehicles are pre wired with a 7 pin but don稚 have the controller installed.
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