Leaking water line

[Jbear]

Have a 2013 flagstaff pop up camper 27ks and have a leak in a water line that coming off the water heater that Is in the slide out
The leaking line is between the floor and the sub floor so I’m not sure how to get to the water lines can anyone help ?

[Skip12]

First, I'd try to get to it the same way you get to the winterizing valves on the water heater.

If that doesnt work, I'd try to remove the panel that makes the seat for the dinette. If you can remove that, I think you'll have a lot of room to work.

Hope that helps.

[Jbear]

Originally Posted by Skip12

First, I'd try to get to it the same way you get to the winterizing valves on the water heater.

If that doesnt work, I'd try to remove the panel that makes the seat for the dinette. If you can remove that, I think you'll have a lot of room to work.

Hope that helps.

The water lines are between the 2 floors

[Skip12]

Is there cloroplast on the outside under the slide? If so, I'd try to go through there and then reseal the cloroplast.

[GalsofEscape]

the popup we had before our current camper was the Rockwood version of your Flagstaff - If i remember correctly, the front panel of the stepup of the dinette slide out can be removed and the lines are behind that. (we never had to remove the panel - but i remember looking at it and thinking if we ever had to get to those lines - even getting the panel off would not be the easiest thing and then try to work on those lines through the opening????) -

[MGBussey]

Got my camper out fd storage, and I found a leak in the hot (red) water line that runs underneath the dinette slide out in my Rockwood HW 277 popup. It is between the floor of the dinette and the actual floor of the camper. About six inches between them. I'm wondering if I need to rip off the white flashing that covers the outside of the camper wall that is overhung by the slide out.

[Larry-NC]

Originally Posted by MGBussey

Got my camper out fd storage, and I found a leak in the hot (red) water line that runs underneath the dinette slide out in my Rockwood HW 277 popup. It is between the floor of the dinette and the actual floor of the camper. About six inches between them. I'm wondering if I need to rip off the white flashing that covers the outside of the camper wall that is overhung by the slide out.

Maybe. But it might be easier to see the line if you move the slideout (out if it's in; in if it's out.)

[MGBussey]

Originally Posted by Larry-NC

Maybe. But it might be easier to see the line if you move the slideout (out if it's in; in if it's out.)

I did do that. The water line stays in one place. It is located right where the outside wall would be if the dinette wasn't there. So it is about 19" from the inside front of the slide out when it is pushed out, but still next to the outer wall of the camper. The kick plate (toe wall?) of the slide out is not attached with screws - it appears not to be removable, and the floor of the dinette is one solid piece covered in vinyl flooring, leaving no access to the water lines. On the outside of the camper underneath the pushed-out slide out are three pieces of what I think are aluminum flashing, covering the hole made by the slide out. These are stapled to the frame with a million heavy duty staples.

[Larry-NC]

Originally Posted by MGBussey

I did do that. The water line stays in one place. It is located right where the outside wall would be if the dinette wasn't there. So it is about 19" from the inside front of the slide out when it is pushed out, but still next to the outer wall of the camper. The kick plate (toe wall?) of the slide out is not attached with screws - it appears not to be removable, and the floor of the dinette is one solid piece covered in vinyl flooring, leaving no access to the water lines. On the outside of the camper underneath the pushed-out slide out are three pieces of what I think are aluminum flashing, covering the hole made by the slide out. These are stapled to the frame with a million heavy duty staples.

Pictures would be helpful.

Waterlines don't usually break in the middle. They usually leak at a fitting, although the leaking water often runs along the outside of the pipe. Can you tell where this waterline begins and ends and inspect those points for leaks?

[MGBussey]

Originally Posted by Larry-NC

Pictures would be helpful.

Waterlines don't usually break in the middle. They usually leak at a fitting, although the leaking water often runs along the outside of the pipe. Can you tell where this waterline begins and ends and inspect those points for leaks?

Larry, thanks for helping. The red (hot) water line appears to have a white-ish plastic joint in it, and that is where I see drips. To see this, I am laying with my head on the floor, looking through the gap under the kick panel of the dinette slide out. The water lines are 19 inches back from that point, and they don't move with the slide out. I can't see much of anything else without better access. This line appears to go from the water heater toward the shower/toilet. I think it goes from there across the back end to the pull out outside kitchen sink, and then toward the indoor kitchen sink. One long U-shaped traverse of half the camper!
There were no drips along the water lines entering or exiting the water heater itself, which is on top of the dinette floor under the seat. The lines travel under the dinette floor through an opening in the floor but I can't see anything else through it.

No photos of this are as there is no access, and we're having thunderstorms now so I don't have the popup open to take one of the flashing I'm talking about - sorry.

[Larry-NC]

Originally Posted by MGBussey

Larry, thanks for helping. The red (hot) water line appears to have a white-ish plastic joint in it, and that is where I see drips. To see this, I am laying with my head on the floor, looking through the gap under the kick panel of the dinette slide out. The water lines are 19 inches back from that point, and they don't move with the slide out. I can't see much of anything else without better access. This line appears to go from the water heater toward the shower/toilet. I think it goes from there across the back end to the pull out outside kitchen sink, and then toward the indoor kitchen sink. One long U-shaped traverse of half the camper!
There were no drips along the water lines entering or exiting the water heater itself, which is on top of the dinette floor under the seat. The lines travel under the dinette floor through an opening in the floor but I can't see anything else through it.

No photos of this are as there is no access, and we're having thunderstorms now so I don't have the popup open to take one of the flashing I'm talking about - sorry.

Here's where it helps to have two people. One stands by the water heater while the other flexes the line from underneath. If flexion is seen at the water heater, your suspicion is confirmed.

Then you disconnect it from the water heater and tape a piece of strong string to it. Then pull it down from underneath and fix the joint. Your second person pulls on the string to feed the pipe back up while you steer from below. Reconnect at the water heater and you are done.

[MGBussey]

Originally Posted by Larry-NC

Here's where it helps to have two people. One stands by the water heater while the other flexes the line from underneath. If flexion is seen at the water heater, your suspicion is confirmed.

Then you disconnect it from the water heater and tape a piece of strong string to it. Then pull it down from underneath and fix the joint. Your second person pulls on the string to feed the pipe back up while you steer from below. Reconnect at the water heater and you are done.

I cannot access the water line- it's between the dinette slide out floor and the actual floor (subfloor) of the camper. That's my problem at this point.

[flyerdp]

Originally Posted by MGBussey

I cannot access the water line- it's between the dinette slide out floor and the actual floor (subfloor) of the camper. That's my problem at this point.

In a forest river pop-up slideout there is a metal trim piece on the edge of the slide out floor and the horizontal trim panel that goes down to the floor. It is screwed in and can be removed. That is how you gain access to the underside.

[MGBussey]

Originally Posted by flyerdp

In a forest river pop-up slideout there is a metal trim piece on the edge of the slide out floor and the horizontal trim panel that goes down to the floor. It is screwed in and can be removed. That is how you gain access to the underside.

Does anyone have a photo of that access panel?

[Campworthy]

Here's a pic of the metal trim piece on top of the kickplate.

[Larry-NC]

Originally Posted by Campworthy

Here's a pic of the metal trim piece on top of the kickplate.

That trim is commonly used on the leading edge of residential stair treads. If you ever need one, they are available at Lowe's, Home Depot, and the like.

[AzMitch]

You can access the leak under the right side bench. Remove the cover where the lines run from the water heater to under the slide out. There is enough room to undo the pex connection cut the hose and attach it to the t connector again.

[MGBussey]

Originally Posted by AzMitch

You can access the leak under the right side bench. Remove the cover where the lines run from the water heater to under the slide out. There is enough room to undo the pex connection cut the hose and attach it to the t connector again.

Thanks AzMitch! I will see if I can just pull it far enough to do as you suggest.

[AzMitch]

I just bought my 2018 hw27ks 2 days ago and I just fixed this problem at the camp site. Good luck!!

[MGBussey]

Originally Posted by AzMitch

I just bought my 2018 hw27ks 2 days ago and I just fixed this problem at the camp site. Good luck!!

On my Rockwood HW 277, the red and blue water lines are held to the outer edge of the camper body with a clamp to the floor. So, I took off the flashing found on the outside, under the slide-out. There isn't enough play in the red and blue lines to have pulled them out of the access hole in the dinette seat area anyway, and not enough to pull them outside the camper body through my now open side. Now, still with no slack in those lines, how do I remove (destroy) the crimped on hose clamps? These are not solid rings, but straps only sort-of like a regular hose clamp, but without having a screw to open them. I need to get the old one off the hose so I can replace it. Thanks in advance.