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08-07-2023, 07:35 PM
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Looking at trading in our HW296 for a travel trsiler
Where gonna trade in or 2018 Rockwood HW296 for a Rockwood Mini Lite, not sure which model we're goona get yet, we're gonna look at the 2507s or 2516s.
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08-07-2023, 08:38 PM
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But you've just done all those mods?? New sink, step, tv!! How come you are trading, have you run out of mods to do, so now you are bored?
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08-07-2023, 09:00 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cowboy6201
Where gonna trade in or 2018 Rockwood HW296 for a Rockwood Mini Lite, not sure which model we're goona get yet, we're gonna look at the 2507s or 2516s.
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Since you have a bling F150 Limited, that trim level tends to have "Limited" payload capacity.
You're probably fine with the loaded tongue weight of the 2507S. But the 2516S may push up against your payload capacity.
When I was looking at F150s, Limited models often had payload capacities at 1000lbs or less.
Let us know what the driver's door yellow Tires and Loading sticker says. It'll say "Occupants and cargo should not exceed xxxxlbs". Driver is considered as one of the Occupants so their weight must be subtracted from the payload amount, just like the passengers, truck cargo/add-ons and WDH weight.
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Shawn-Musician/Entrepreneur/Wine Expert
and Zoe the Wonder Dog(R.I.P.)
2016 PrimeTime TracerAIR 255, pushing a 2014 Ford F150 SCREW XTR 4x4 3.5 Ecoboost w/Max Tow Package
4pt Equal-i-zer WDH and 1828lbs of payload capacity
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08-08-2023, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Campworthy
But you've just done all those mods?? New sink, step, tv!! How come you are trading, have you run out of mods to do, so now you are bored?
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The TV Comes out the original Furrion TV goes back in it. The New TV will replace the cheap Furrion in the new trailer.
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08-08-2023, 11:42 AM
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FYI looks like Rockwood eliminated the 2507s for MY 2024.
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08-08-2023, 12:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Campworthy
But you've just done all those mods?? New sink, step, tv!! How come you are trading, have you run out of mods to do, so now you are bored?
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The Sink had to be replaced, it had cracks around the drains.
The old step was rusty.
I now need to replace the stabizer Jack's, the pads disingeaded and the Jack's are very rusty so even if I replace pads I'll still need to replace the Jack's.
I live on Cape Cod were I'm surrounded buy salt water and things rust up fast and don't last if it's not Stainless or non rust proof.
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08-11-2023, 01:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bikendan
Since you have a bling F150 Limited, that trim level tends to have "Limited" payload capacity.
You're probably fine with the loaded tongue weight of the 2507S. But the 2516S may push up against your payload capacity.
When I was looking at F150s, Limited models often had payload capacities at 1000lbs or less.
Let us know what the driver's door yellow Tires and Loading sticker says. It'll say "Occupants and cargo should not exceed xxxxlbs". Driver is considered as one of the Occupants so their weight must be subtracted from the payload amount, just like the passengers, truck cargo/add-ons and WDH weight.
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Here's the sticker on the door frame.
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08-11-2023, 01:29 PM
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Just like I thought. My non-bling XLT F150 3.5 Ecoboost SuperCrew has a payload capacity of 1828lbs.
So for the 2516S, using 12% of the trailer's GVWR, for a ballpark loaded tongue weight, gives you a ballpark loaded tongue weight over 900lbs.
Now add 350lbs for driver and one passenger and 100lbs for the WDH, adds up to 1350lbs against your 1190lbs of payload.
That's 160lbs over truck's payload capacity, and that's with no more passengers and truck cargo.
That's why I said that the 2516S is too tongue heavy.
The 2507S gives you a little more room but you have to add up how much is going to be in the truck. And the 2507S has been discontinued for 2024.
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Shawn-Musician/Entrepreneur/Wine Expert
and Zoe the Wonder Dog(R.I.P.)
2016 PrimeTime TracerAIR 255, pushing a 2014 Ford F150 SCREW XTR 4x4 3.5 Ecoboost w/Max Tow Package
4pt Equal-i-zer WDH and 1828lbs of payload capacity
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08-11-2023, 04:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bikendan
Just like I thought. My non-bling XLT F150 3.5 Ecoboost SuperCrew has a payload capacity of 1828lbs.
So for the 2516S, using 12% of the trailer's GVWR, for a ballpark loaded tongue weight, gives you a ballpark loaded tongue weight over 900lbs.
Now add 350lbs for driver and one passenger and 100lbs for the WDH, adds up to 1350lbs against your 1190lbs of payload.
That's 160lbs over truck's payload capacity, and that's with no more passengers and truck cargo.
That's why I said that the 2516S is too tongue heavy.
The 2507S gives you a little more room but you have to add up how much is going to be in the truck. And the 2507S has been discontinued for 2024.
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I going to look at a 2509s leftover 2023 and a used 2022.
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08-11-2023, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Cowboy6201
I going to look at a 2509s leftover 2023 and a used 2022.
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Do you realize that the 2509S has the same basic fictional dry tongue weight, as the 2516S?
So you'll run out of payload capacity on that trailer too.
You have to realize that your F150 has a poor payload capacity and that dry tongue weight numbers are fictional, because they are based on a stripped-down version of the trailer.
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Shawn-Musician/Entrepreneur/Wine Expert
and Zoe the Wonder Dog(R.I.P.)
2016 PrimeTime TracerAIR 255, pushing a 2014 Ford F150 SCREW XTR 4x4 3.5 Ecoboost w/Max Tow Package
4pt Equal-i-zer WDH and 1828lbs of payload capacity
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