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05-14-2019, 12:21 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Tennessee
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Popup procedure
My parents just bought a 2019 Flagstaff Sports Enthusiast Package popup trailer 23SCSE. The parents are in their late 70s, and I am trying to do up a procedure on setup and take down for them. Anyone have something already written? I am afraid that I am missing something (its been 7 years for me) and I know that they wont remember the walk thru. They need a written procedure that they can leave with the Popup, its been 43 years since they owned one.
Please someone help!
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Renee and Wayne
Seymour, Tennessee
2018 Salem 27DBK,
2004 Dodge Ram 1500
2 kids, 2 Grandsons, 1 Granddaughter, 3 fur babies
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05-14-2019, 12:57 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Northwest Indiana
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Just remember to pull out first, the dinette slide out tent right after getting the top up, and to push it in last, after bunkends are in, and you're ready to put top down.
Otherwise the dinette slide out tent can get ripped. That is what I have to keep reminding myself about.
Never had a slide out in the last 4 campers so this is new to me, especially with the pop up.
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2019 Ford F150 Race Red XLT Sport, CC, 4WD, 145" WB, 3.5L Ecoboost, 10 speed, 3.55 Locking Axle, 1830# Payload, 12,700# Tow Rating, pulling a 2020 Rockwood Premier 2716G Pop Up, with a 14' box. Go through Indiana Dunes NP 5X/week! Previously had 2012 Jayco Jay Flight 26BH and 2008 Jayco Jay Flight 19BH Travel Trailers. Also previously had 2007 Starcraft 2406 Pop Up with 12' box and bathroom, Previously had 2005 Rockwood 2290 Pop Up with 12' box and porta potty cabinet.
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05-14-2019, 01:05 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Northern KY
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Man I don't think you can write something up on a brand new trailer using knowledge from a 7 year old trailer... so much new stuff these days...
Do a walkthrough and record the steps of taking down and setting up on a video on your cell phone and send it too them.
Have them review the video and write down the steps they think they need to remember...
If I was over 70... ( I am 70 now) I would not be getting a popup... too much work, which is why I went with a hybrid 5 years ago.
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05-14-2019, 01:15 PM
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Site Team
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Goodyear, Arizona
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You can probably find a ton of YouTube videos on setup.
Just look for Rockwood or Flagstaff popup videos.
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05-14-2019, 01:43 PM
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Member
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Tennessee
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rsdata
Man I don't think you can write something up on a brand new trailer using knowledge from a 7 year old trailer... so much new stuff these days...
Do a walkthrough and record the steps of taking down and setting up on a video on your cell phone and send it too them.
Have them review the video and write down the steps they think they need to remember...
If I was over 70... ( I am 70 now) I would not be getting a popup... too much work, which is why I went with a hybrid 5 years ago.
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Unfortunately they already did the walk though and did not record anything. With my parents they need something written down. Dad who is turning 80 this year, will do the work he will not look at a video while setting up. Believe it or not they traded a 24' travel trailer for this. Dad figures why have something big when they only go camping 3 times a year.
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Renee and Wayne
Seymour, Tennessee
2018 Salem 27DBK,
2004 Dodge Ram 1500
2 kids, 2 Grandsons, 1 Granddaughter, 3 fur babies
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05-14-2019, 01:55 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Northwest Indiana
Posts: 572
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Lifetimer
Believe it or not they traded a 24' travel trailer for this. Dad figures why have something big when they only go camping 3 times a year.
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I did the same thing except mine was 29'. The pop up is much cheaper to maintain as well. Cheaper insurance, plates, and preventive maintenance. I'm saving well over $1000/year right there.
As far as difficulty, the bunk boards are probably the hardest thing to do. You can use a drill for the stabilizers and roof has a lift system on it. Leveling is much easier and using that Bal single wheel jack/leveler, doesn't get any easier next to a travel trailers much longer leveling times.
The one piece door is a pain but much easier for shorter people.
Age doesn't matter, health is more of a concern. I work with a 70 year old guy who is better physically than a 46 year old guy i work with.
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2019 Ford F150 Race Red XLT Sport, CC, 4WD, 145" WB, 3.5L Ecoboost, 10 speed, 3.55 Locking Axle, 1830# Payload, 12,700# Tow Rating, pulling a 2020 Rockwood Premier 2716G Pop Up, with a 14' box. Go through Indiana Dunes NP 5X/week! Previously had 2012 Jayco Jay Flight 26BH and 2008 Jayco Jay Flight 19BH Travel Trailers. Also previously had 2007 Starcraft 2406 Pop Up with 12' box and bathroom, Previously had 2005 Rockwood 2290 Pop Up with 12' box and porta potty cabinet.
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05-14-2019, 01:58 PM
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Location: SE Arizona's Gila Vally
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One thing handy for shorter folks is to build a 'Stuffer' pole. A 3 foot piece of PVC with a tee glued to one end for stuffing canvas in as you are bringing the top down. I saw an older couple doing this several years ago. She would lower the top and he would go around keeping the canvas tucked in neatly. They made a great team.
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05-14-2019, 02:12 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Northwest Indiana
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackrock
One thing handy for shorter folks is to build a 'Stuffer' pole. A 3 foot piece of PVC with a tee glued to one end for stuffing canvas in as you are bringing the top down. I saw an older couple doing this several years ago. She would lower the top and he would go around keeping the canvas tucked in neatly. They made a great team.
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Hum, i just push it in with my hand as most do. Why would you need a pole?
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2019 Ford F150 Race Red XLT Sport, CC, 4WD, 145" WB, 3.5L Ecoboost, 10 speed, 3.55 Locking Axle, 1830# Payload, 12,700# Tow Rating, pulling a 2020 Rockwood Premier 2716G Pop Up, with a 14' box. Go through Indiana Dunes NP 5X/week! Previously had 2012 Jayco Jay Flight 26BH and 2008 Jayco Jay Flight 19BH Travel Trailers. Also previously had 2007 Starcraft 2406 Pop Up with 12' box and bathroom, Previously had 2005 Rockwood 2290 Pop Up with 12' box and porta potty cabinet.
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05-14-2019, 02:22 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: SE Arizona's Gila Vally
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike91
Hum, i just push it in with my hand as most do. Why would you need a pole?
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This couple were pretty up there in years, 70+ at least, and were on the short side. They had a system that worked for them.
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05-14-2019, 03:02 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Northwest Indiana
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Blackrock
This couple were pretty up there in years, 70+ at least, and were on the short side. They had a system that worked for them.
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Got it.
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2019 Ford F150 Race Red XLT Sport, CC, 4WD, 145" WB, 3.5L Ecoboost, 10 speed, 3.55 Locking Axle, 1830# Payload, 12,700# Tow Rating, pulling a 2020 Rockwood Premier 2716G Pop Up, with a 14' box. Go through Indiana Dunes NP 5X/week! Previously had 2012 Jayco Jay Flight 26BH and 2008 Jayco Jay Flight 19BH Travel Trailers. Also previously had 2007 Starcraft 2406 Pop Up with 12' box and bathroom, Previously had 2005 Rockwood 2290 Pop Up with 12' box and porta potty cabinet.
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05-14-2019, 07:10 PM
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Member
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 60
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Popup procedure
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05-14-2019, 07:41 PM
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Just as confused as you
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: south central Wisconsin
Posts: 5,108
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Originally Posted by OttieJB
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It seems to be what OP is looking for. There is a "Printable reminder sheet" at the bottom of the page.
I want to thank you for the link. DW and I are going to use a Rockwood popup for the first time in years in July so I saved it to my laptop with our travel itinerary.
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2014 Flagstaff 832IKBS Classic Super Lite
2018 Silverado 1500 Crew Cab Z71 4WD All Star Edition
Camping since 1989, Seasonal since 2000.
Car Shredder Op/Tech, Scrap Metal Recycling - retired
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05-14-2019, 08:13 PM
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Member
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 60
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Popup procedure
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scrapper
It seems to be what OP is looking for. There is a "Printable reminder sheet" at the bottom of the page.
I want to thank you for the link. DW and I are going to use a Rockwood popup for the first time in years in July so I saved it to my laptop with our travel itinerary.
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Just a note, I have a Rockwood too with dinette slide...after the trailer is leveled and the corner stability jacks are down (jacks for stabilizing only, not for leveling the trailer) and the roof is raised, you pull out the bed ends first and the dinette slide last. The dinette slide has top mounted wheels that the beds rest on (sometimes only one wheel for one bed depending on trailer layout) during travel and could be damaged if you pull out the dinette first (because wheels aren’t meant to roll sideways). When you break it down you want to push the dinette in first then go inside and push the dinette tent outward (towards the outside of trailer so it doesn’t get caught up on the beds corners as you slide them in) this way the beds don’t get caught on the dinette tent. At this point the beds should slide in pretty easy over the dinette rolling along the wheels that are screwed in to the top of the dinette walls. Sounds confusing but you’ll get the hang of it when you see it.
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05-14-2019, 10:05 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2018
Location: Northwest Indiana
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Quote:
Originally Posted by OttieJB
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You'll end up damaging your slide out tent if you go by those faulty directions. They don't state to pull the slide out tent FIRST, before pulling the bunkend beds out. Pulling the bunkend beds out before pulling out the slide out tent, can cause tent damage. A big mistake on their part.
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2019 Ford F150 Race Red XLT Sport, CC, 4WD, 145" WB, 3.5L Ecoboost, 10 speed, 3.55 Locking Axle, 1830# Payload, 12,700# Tow Rating, pulling a 2020 Rockwood Premier 2716G Pop Up, with a 14' box. Go through Indiana Dunes NP 5X/week! Previously had 2012 Jayco Jay Flight 26BH and 2008 Jayco Jay Flight 19BH Travel Trailers. Also previously had 2007 Starcraft 2406 Pop Up with 12' box and bathroom, Previously had 2005 Rockwood 2290 Pop Up with 12' box and porta potty cabinet.
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05-14-2019, 10:38 PM
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Just as confused as you
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: south central Wisconsin
Posts: 5,108
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mike91
You'll end up damaging your slide out tent if you go by those faulty directions. They don't state to pull the slide out tent FIRST, before pulling the bunkend beds out. Pulling the bunkend beds out before pulling out the slide out tent, can cause tent damage. A big mistake on their part.
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Those instructions are actually written up for their rental popups. They don't rent popups with dinette slides. http://www.robertssales.com/rentals.html
As you know not all popups have dinette slides and the instructions are good to start with. If your popup has the slide then you need to modify the instructions to fit.
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2014 Flagstaff 832IKBS Classic Super Lite
2018 Silverado 1500 Crew Cab Z71 4WD All Star Edition
Camping since 1989, Seasonal since 2000.
Car Shredder Op/Tech, Scrap Metal Recycling - retired
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