Frozen waterline

Bulldozer · 11-18-2013, 10:44 PM

Can someone tell me where the waterline to the rear kitchen on my 340 columbus runs along

jeb182 · 11-22-2013, 09:29 PM

It's 17 degrees here and my 340 kitchen faucet froze up today. We didn't run the water there all day and guess it would have been a good idea to have done that. I took the drawers out to the right of the sink and the lines go into the floor there. Took the drawers out and put a heater there so we'll see how it works. Good luck.

jtstromsburg · 11-23-2013, 10:47 AM

I'm having the same issue in my Sabre 34TBOK. Running propane furnace only inside, to make sure heart is getting to underbelly. I have a small heater in the outdoor kitchen, and one right in the basement storage bay. Its nice in that bay, and great in the ok too. Any ideas? I'm thinking I'll have to wait for a warm day, and drop the underbelly cover to examine. Any other tricks?

Ford Idaho · 11-23-2013, 10:50 AM

Trailer skirting with a heater near you docking station.

jtstromsburg · 11-23-2013, 10:58 AM

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Trailer skirting with a heater near you docking station.

I got the heater. The full story is...its sitting in my driveway. Usually would have winterized a couple weeks ago, but doing Thanksgiving with the dw family and was informed we are using the Sabre for the weekend. Last year, when I first brought the fiver home, it was much colder then expected and so we had to heat it then as well. I would definitely skirt it if I was living in it, but I'll probably winterize after next weekend. I'm just wondering why the lines are freezing up so easily? Maybe they are not above the insulation or maybe the insulation had moved and is allowing air in? Daytime temps are still under freezing, but back to the mid 40's after today I think. Live and learn I guess. We bought this, hoping to be able to use it for short, high propane use, winter stays (like for holidays and such). I plan to add shutoffs for the outside kitchen lines, but really thought the rest would work. I realize its not a true for season rig, and we would use plenty of propane to keep it from freezing up.

Ford Idaho · 11-23-2013, 11:09 AM

Cn you get water to run thru anything?
If you can run as much water thru the trailer as you can.
Outside shower or sink any and all that will run water.
Perhaps the water flowing will warm the pipes enough, even cold water is above freezing.

jtstromsburg · 11-23-2013, 11:21 AM

Water everywhere Except at kitchen sink. It'll work by about 3 today I'd guess.

Ford Idaho · 11-23-2013, 11:48 AM

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Water everywhere Except at kitchen sink. It'll work by about 3 today I'd guess.

Does the faucet have a screen or aerator, could it be plugged?
I have seen posts where others have found plastic bits in screens and valves from construction.

jtstromsburg · 11-23-2013, 12:02 PM

Good thought. It does have an aerator. Its a pull out style faucet, and I did pull it apart yesterday, but no luck. I an considering making a "trap door" under the sink, so I can pump gay into that area when needed. Not sure how I'd do it, but think I could since its always hidden under the trash can and a behind a cabinet door.

Jimmerinwi · 11-23-2013, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jtstromsburg

Good thought. It does have an aerator. Its a pull out style faucet, and I did pull it apart yesterday, but no luck. I an considering making a "trap door" under the sink, so I can pump gay into that area when needed. Not sure how I'd do it, but think I could since its always hidden under the trash can and a behind a cabinet door.

Your going to pump WHAT into area?

jtstromsburg · 11-23-2013, 06:23 PM

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Your going to pump WHAT into area?

Hmm. Well I was thinking heat, but I guess not. Pictures too follow.

jtstromsburg · 11-25-2013, 07:59 PM

I decided to cut into the underbelly tonight. After making a "door" in the coraplast, I sliced through the "radiant insulation" and found the water lines right there? Hmmm. I was under the assumption there was also fiberglass insulation below the lines, but maybe not. If I am looking at it right, there is maybe foam insulation at the bottom of the decking? Maybe? I added some insulation below the lines. If nothing else, it should keep the pipes from sitting right on the radiant layer. They were also right against some steel framing member, which would transfer cold easily. Hopefully, this will help.

DutchF · 11-26-2013, 10:15 AM

Would it be possible to slip some foam pipe insulation over the line(s)? I'm planning on going through ours and doing that, as soon as I get some time. It will also give me a chance to ensure fittings are tight and there are no sharp edges rubbing on anything.

jtstromsburg · 11-26-2013, 10:20 AM

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Would it be possible to slip some foam pipe insulation over the line(s)? I'm planning on going through ours and doing that, as soon as I get some time. It will also give me a chance to ensure fittings are tight and there are no sharp edges rubbing on anything.

Good idea. At this point, unless I can fund a friend with open tall shop space, I'll wait till next spring when it warms up. Then, drop the whole bottom and re do insulation as needed, maybe adding more and definitely sealing up spots.

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