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Old 04-13-2013, 10:57 PM   #1
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Window screens?

Here is an issue that has me confused. We picked up our 320 yesterday at the dealer after various technical problems getting it ready. No worries, most of it was out of the dealers control.

So today we get inside and start getting things ready for our first trip. While sitting on the rear sofa talking to the DW, she made an observation. "Hey, whats wrong with that screen?" Inspecting the window screen on the rear window, it was obiviously askew. After close inspection of not only that screen, but ALL of the screen, none of them fit snugly in the window frame.

After fiddling with it for a few minutes the cause was clear. Any window that had any kind of crank or latching device at the bottom of the window caused the screen to not sit flush into the frame. While most of the misfitting screens were hidden by the window treatments, significant gaps were obvious all around the window edges.

The obvious fix would be to grind or cut the bottom of the screen in the area of the latch to allow the screen to fit snugly into the frame.

But the question is, is it just my unit that has this issue? Have any other Columbus owners noticed this problem? Is this a manufactuering issue, or just the screen on my unit?

Thanks for input. I will call the dealer on Monday and see what he says.
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Old 04-13-2013, 11:00 PM   #2
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Mind taking any pics to show what you're seeing?
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Old 04-13-2013, 11:17 PM   #3
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No prob, I will get a few in the morning. The easiest way to describe it is the crank for the window, which is in the center bottom of the frame, sits too high to let the window screen seat firmly against the frame. I will post up some pics tomorrow.
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Old 04-14-2013, 11:38 PM   #4
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Here are pics of the problem window screens. It centers around the fact that the window cranks in the center bottom of the windows are preventing the screens from seating in the frames.

The obvious fix is to either grind the bottom of the screens to allow the screen to fit into the opening without hitting the crank mechanism, or lower the cranks to allow the screens to fit normally. See what you think.
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Old 04-15-2013, 12:49 AM   #5
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Howdy Sarge!
I just went around and cleaned all the windows inside, and I had the same problem! You really have to play with them and pound them on pretty hard, and they still kinda ride the crank, causing it to bend alittle at the bottom. I would be interested in what you find out. Maybe Christopher Columbus could chime in also!!
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Old 04-15-2013, 01:10 AM   #6
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That is what I am hoping. If this is a manufacturing goof up, then someone needs to step up. The DW is highly allergic to bug bites, and having gaps around all of the screens is totally unacceptable. I will post up when I talk to the dealer tomorrow.
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Old 04-15-2013, 03:34 AM   #7
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I do not remember seeing gaps on mine but I will check when I get it back from repair this week. I have not had the windows open a lot so I will have to look.
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Old 04-15-2013, 07:49 AM   #8
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Ick. Something seems to be wrong in those photo's!
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Old 04-15-2013, 08:56 AM   #9
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Seems to me the quick "no cutting" solution would be to mount the crank mechanism on the other side of the aluminum frame so the screen can sit flush to the frame. Two screws and it's done.

It's always hard to tell from internet pics though....that may not work out.

My flagstaff classic has the crank mechanisms in the window frame similar to what I suggested, but it's not a "scissor" like arrangement like yours. It's like a geared lever.

Regardless, I still had to tweak and adjust my screens to fit flat also. No filing, just a little bend/tweak/tighten session. They're all pretty light and cheap...
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some body has to see that and passed it?
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Old 04-15-2013, 09:41 AM   #11
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I know, huh? That seems to be the sore spot in ALL RV manufacturing these days. And that is the lack of over sight and quality control.
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I know, huh? That seems to be the sore spot in ALL RV manufacturing these days. And that is the lack of over sight and quality control.
Yup, 30-40 grand gets you a "starter kit" these days.

IE: some assembly required......


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My dealer is not going to like that I have been reading this form. I am walking in with a list of what to look for when i pick it up.
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My dealer is not going to like that I have been reading this form. I am walking in with a list of what to look for when i pick it up.
Good for you!!!!!!
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Yup, 30-40 grand gets you a "starter kit" these days.
IE: some assembly required......
That's my point though. I traded in a 3 year old $200K diesel pusher on this rig. There was still issues that I had to deal with that should have been caught and corrected at the factory before it ever left the assembly line.

It's a lack of quality control that is still present regardless of the price point.
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I talked to the service manager today. He said that this has not been an issue before. He was going to look at some of the other units on the lot and see if they had a similar issue.
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Old 04-15-2013, 10:26 PM   #17
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That is completely unacceptable. Back to the shop!
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Old 04-17-2013, 08:32 AM   #18
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Sarge,

When I did the PDI on my Columbus I noticed most of my screens were not snug in place. I was able to get all mine to fit correctly and did not have the window crank issues that your having. It almost looks like they mounted the cranks too high on the windows.
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What did you have to do to correct the fit?
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Most of the screens just were not snapped into place correctly. I will say that the screens are a pain to get snapped in all the way. Some of them I thought were going to break the clips, but they finally all snapped into place. I found that I as having to push rather hard so the metal clip/spring would finally snap into place. I would get the top ones to all clip, then I would push the screen all the way up and then start clipping the rest in place.
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