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Old 10-05-2022, 02:41 PM   #1
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Is this the way we'll eventually have to shop when we go to the store?

We'll all need "personal shopping assistants"?

Seems like this one national chain has had enough of the rampant shoplifting.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/foodanddri...95fd853a8dfdf5

With all the extra staff required I would be shocked if prices don't go sky high.

Then again, if merchants have to do this maybe they'll just shift to online ordering and payment so all the shopper has to do is pick up the order at a specified time (or have it delivered).

Apparently this is another sign or the times
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So let me get this straight, stores have been getting rid of employees (cashiers) for years in favor of automatic checkouts. And now they want to hire personal shopping assistants to cut back on shoplifting? Maybe they might want to go back to cashiers instead. Sounds like their experiment isn't working well.
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Reminded me of this post by wmtire last month.

https://www.forestriverforums.com/fo...ml#post2781579

I still giggle about this one!
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We'll all need "personal shopping assistants"?

Seems like this one national chain has had enough of the rampant shoplifting.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/foodanddri...95fd853a8dfdf5

With all the extra staff required I would be shocked if prices don't go sky high.

Then again, if merchants have to do this maybe they'll just shift to online ordering and payment so all the shopper has to do is pick up the order at a specified time (or have it delivered).

Apparently this is another sign or the times
I can see this coming. More and more I see shelves without products on them. Instead, there is a tear-off coupon with product description and bar code. You have to check-out and pay for it first, then pick it up at Customer Service. Along with your register receipt you get a second slip that has to be surrendered for your pick-up items. Tedious process, but it's the stores way of invoking loss prevention.
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Having worked at one of the big box hardware stores for 15 years, I recall a staff meeting some years ago where it was disclosed the budget for shrinkage was some $20,000 per month. I'm sure by now the number has at least doubled or tripled. FYI - That loss is added back into the retail price we pay.

You'd be amazed at the ways and methods people steal or shoplift merchandise.

When the wife and I shop, if I'm left alone for a few minutes, I always watch for shoplifters. They stand out like a sore thumb if one knows how to observe their actions. Often it is very entertaining to watch their actions. In many instances, after observing their action, I will step to a manager or supervisor and describe the person and what they shoplifted. It is up to them to notify store security. Usually, within minutes, the police arrive and the perp is escorted in handcuffs to the back seat of the patrol car.

You ever observe a person with a big cowboy hat, remove his hat, run his fingers through his hair, and put his hat back on? They just put something on their head and covered it up with the hat. Small expensive items are easy.

Want to know some more methods? Naw, I'm not gonna disclose how to do it.

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Problem is, after hand cuffed and in the patrol car, off they go to the judge. 30 minutes later they are back on the street again.
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Old 10-05-2022, 05:59 PM   #7
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Problem is, after hand cuffed and in the patrol car, off they go to the judge. 30 minutes later they are back on the street again.
You assume they actually see a judge?

Prosecutors around here have let police know they won't be prosecuting non-violent offenses so most never even get arrested.

Police merely respond to shoplifting calls now other than to process trespass notices filled out by store.

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Old 10-05-2022, 06:01 PM   #8
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I suspect that retailers will simply close stores in high theft zones.
Those people will be forced to shop nearly exclusively online and have groceries delivered so that if anything is stolen, it will be the consumer’s loss.
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My son was a district loss prevention manager for a national retail chain. He recently resigned due to being fed up with police saying their time involved with shoplifting is wasted due to prosecutors not wanting to prosecute and a judiciary that does not want to sentence. It's sad that this is what has become of our society.
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This reminds me of something that happened to me last year. I don't think I have shared it here because it wasn't camping-related.

The short version is that I was treated in a way that I have no idea how to feel about.

In my real life, I travel about 40 weeks per year. I fly to some city on Monday, spend either 3 or 4 days training end-users, and fly home Thursday or Friday evening.

During a trip last year, I found myself in a suburb of Los Angeles. Not a *terrible* suburb - not Watts, or Compton, but also not Beverly Hills.

Most trips, I will stop at a grocery store on my way to the hotel to pick up some snacks and a case of water. I have to talk for most of 8 hours each day, so I go through a ton of water.

On this day, for whatever reason, by the time I made it out of the airport and got my rental car, I had a screaming, eye-watering headache. I found a Walmart near my hotel and stopped in to get a case of water and a bottle of Excedrin. This particular Walmart was in a shopping center built on a hill - so it was two stories. The front parking lot entered the downstairs level and the back parking lot came in upstairs. They had elevators and escalators to take you between floors.

As (bad) luck would have it, the water was right inside the downstairs door that I entered through, but the "Health and Beauty" section was upstairs on the opposite side. Being a logical guy, I decided to skip the water for now, go get the aspirin, and then come back to get the water & pay for both at the door closest to where I parked my car.

I head upstairs and find that they have the whole Health and Beauty section locked behind plexiglass. I press the call button, and a clerk comes and opens the display... but *doesn't* hand me the Excedrin. She says that she needs to take me to the checkout and have me pay right now before I can even hold the bottle in my hand.

I told her that I had other shopping to do, and asked if she could meet me at a downstairs register so that I could pay for all at once.

"No"

I asked if she could hold it at the upstairs register so that I could go get my water and lug it back upstairs (so that I could turn around and lug it back downstairs).

Also "No". She said that if I wasn't paying for it immediately, it had to go back into the case.

As this conversation is progressing, we are steadily walking toward the line of registers, and I am resigning myself to standing in line twice to get what I need. We come up to another employee working at a register, who I assume is a supervisor of some kind. The girl I am with calls out "Hey, Ginny - this guy wants to take this aspirin downstairs to pay for it". The other employee starts to answer as she is turning in our direction, and is fully facing us when she finishes.

She says "Tell him he needs to......just give it to him".

All's well that ends well, I suppose, I got my aspirin and water, paid for them and went about my business. But I couldn't help but wonder how that sentence would have ended if I *hadn't* been a middle-aged white guy in business casual attire?
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Having worked at one of the big box hardware stores for 15 years, I recall a staff meeting some years ago where it was disclosed the budget for shrinkage was some $20,000 per month. I'm sure by now the number has at least doubled or tripled. FYI - That loss is added back into the retail price we pay.

You'd be amazed at the ways and methods people steal or shoplift merchandise.

When the wife and I shop, if I'm left alone for a few minutes, I always watch for shoplifters. They stand out like a sore thumb if one knows how to observe their actions. Often it is very entertaining to watch their actions. In many instances, after observing their action, I will step to a manager or supervisor and describe the person and what they shoplifted. It is up to them to notify store security. Usually, within minutes, the police arrive and the perp is escorted in handcuffs to the back seat of the patrol car.

You ever observe a person with a big cowboy hat, remove his hat, run his fingers through his hair, and put his hat back on? They just put something on their head and covered it up with the hat. Small expensive items are easy.

Want to know some more methods? Naw, I'm not gonna disclose how to do it.

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They're lucky! I could have totally ripped them off for nearly 6 bucks worth of aspirin!!!
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whats worse ... the violent crimes where people are shot or stabbed

for less than the aspirin is worth...
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The problems are almost exclusive to crime-ridden cities run by ______ mayors. You're not going to see that elsewhere.
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Then again, if merchants have to do this maybe they'll just shift to online ordering and payment so all the shopper has to do is pick up the order at a specifled time (or have it delivered).

Apparently this is another sign or the times
My life already runs this way. I order groceries online, pay for them online and pick up curbside at my convenience. If an item is missing, I report it online and get a refund. It happens so often at WalMart that they have a 'missing' option on their 'return' menu. Saves a bunch of time and eliminates most 'impulse' buying. At HEB (local grocery store) I can even us coupons.

Our electronics stores, home improvement stores, almost everyone has this option and if they don't have an item 'Amazon' does.

You probably could have used their smartphone 'app' to order it online while you were waiting for your luggage and picked it up at checkout or at curbside.

It's how the younger generation shops for just about everything but apparel.
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The problems are almost exclusive to crime-ridden cities run by ______ mayors. You're not going to see that elsewhere.
Unfortunately the one thing that is ALWAYS true about generalizations is that they are not true.
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Unfortunately the one thing that is ALWAYS true about generalizations is that they are not true.
The only generalization made is that crime happens everywhere. The difference is that some locales stand idly by and watch it happen as opposed to the locales where Lady Justice and the Rule of Law still prevail.
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Yeah that's what they tell us . They sure tell us a lot of stuff these days don't they? I'm tired of being told.
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