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Old 03-31-2018, 02:03 PM   #21
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Sorry the numbers say crime is up.......... way up................ not sure where you are.................. also ask those in law enforcement crime is way up.......

Bureau of Justice statistics.

Homicides per 100K:

1980 10.2
1990 9.4
2000 5.5
2010 4.8
2016 5.3

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Old 03-31-2018, 10:46 PM   #22
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I grew up in a town of 600 people. (50/50 white black). Everybody knew everybody. You couldn't get away with anything!

Like others, my few friends and I got on our bikes in the morning and as long as we were home before dark, all was good. Mom never worried (well no more than a normal worry). We usually rode out to the lake, a 3.2 mile ride one way.

We talked to strangers and even entered "juke joints" to get a pop. Never once feared for my safety.
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Old 03-31-2018, 11:12 PM   #23
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Bureau of Justice statistics.

Homicides per 100K:

1980 10.2
1990 9.4
2000 5.5
2010 4.8
2016 5.3

Ill be happy to post more FACTS later. At work now.
Statistics can be made to fit the occasion.
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Old 04-01-2018, 12:34 AM   #24
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I believe that modern "smart" phones are causing us all to lose intelligence. There is no need to think anymore. The answer to any question you have is just a quick google search away. There is less need to use our brains.
We literally have more information and power at our fingertips than all the previous generations combined. But like many things, it's simply a tool that must be wielded properly to be useful.

I've learned more in the couple of years I've been a member of this message board than I ever would've in a lifetime without it. I love the fact that if I don't know how to do something, 99 times out of 100 I can search and find step by step instructions to solve my problem. That's for anything, not just camping related. YouTube is a godsend for car and home repairs.

Although I'm still surprised at how many people that post stuff (mostly on social media) that can be disproved or verified with a 10 second google search.
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Old 04-01-2018, 12:38 AM   #25
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Statistics can be made to fit the occasion.
Here are a few more:

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The physical abuse of children fell by 55% from 1992 to 2011.

Sexual abuse fell by 64% from 1992 to 2011.

Abductions by strangers fell by 51% from 1997 to 2012.


Motor vehicle deaths for children under 13 years old fell by 43% in the past decade.

The Washington Post came to a similar conclusion, with a headline "There's never been a safer time to be a kid in America."

As in:

In 1935, there were just under 450 deaths for every 100,000 kids between ages 1 and 4. Now there are 30 deaths per 100,000 kids in that age range.

More than 800 child pedestrians were killed from being hit by a car in 1993. There were fewer than 250 such deaths in 2013.


Reports on missing persons under age 18 have gone down 40% from 1997 to 2014.

As spotted in the Chicago Tribune, the 2014 National Child and Youth Well-Being Index from Duke University furthered the good news.

As in:

The number of young Americans who were the victims of violent crime fell 59% since 1994

The number of 12th graders reporting binge drinking, smoking, and alcohol use has fallen since 1995.


In 1991, there were 20 teen births for every thousand females aged 10 to 17. By 2013, that number fell to 6.3.
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Old 04-01-2018, 06:21 AM   #26
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from the FBI website
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s...tables/table-3

https://ucr.fbi.gov/ucr-publications

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s.../violent-crime
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Statics can be used and abused for any occasion and national stats can be very different from local.........

Like the stat. that less children are being hit by cars while riding bikes ...... but does that take into account that less children are riding bikes today.

or less children are dying in motor vehicle accident and while that is probably true today cars are safer, child seats are safer and laws to enforce their use and during the Great Recession people traveled less..... so are we comparing apples to apples ???

The murder rate in our area has quadrupled in the past 10 years........... just stats they can mean little when averaged over a large area like the US.

Crimes rates being reported as down is BS just trying to make us feel better but here it is not the case. Stats can easily be used for the purpose of making a point either way...........

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Old 04-01-2018, 03:10 PM   #28
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Statistics can be made to fit the occasion.

Ridiculously dismissive.

Look them over for yourself. They are stark. Unless you dont want to see.
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Old 04-01-2018, 03:11 PM   #29
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Statics can be used and abused for any occasion and national stats can be very different from local.........

Like the stat. that less children are being hit by cars while riding bikes ...... but does that take into account that less children are riding bikes today.

or less children are dying in motor vehicle accident and while that is probably true today cars are safer, child seats are safer and laws to enforce their use and during the Great Recession people traveled less..... so are we comparing apples to apples ???

The murder rate in our area has quadrupled in the past 10 years........... just stats they can mean little when averaged over a large area like the US.

Crimes rates being reported as down is BS just trying to make us feel better but here it is not the case. Stats can easily be used for the purpose of making a point either way...........


Some just wont see.

The numbers are there. They are stark. Crime is WAY down from when I was a kid.

Fact.
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Old 04-01-2018, 03:47 PM   #30
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Oh, and statistics over a larger area, over a greater sample size, ARE more meaningful. Its called the Law of Large Numbers. Conversely, smaller sample sizes are subject to anomalies.

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Old 04-01-2018, 05:52 PM   #31
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Some just wont see.

The numbers are there. They are stark. Crime is WAY down from when I was a kid.

Fact.
But way up from I was a kid.....................................
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Old 04-01-2018, 05:54 PM   #32
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Some people just dont like facts an figures. Just their narrative.

Anyway, Ive answered the post that more or less demanded an answer, Ive posted reality, so I will just move on.

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Old 04-01-2018, 08:54 PM   #33
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Bureau of Justice statistics.

Homicides per 100K:

1980 10.2
1990 9.4
2000 5.5
2010 4.8
2016 5.3

Ill be happy to post more FACTS later. At work now.
Fewer homicides may be occurring but your TV, car, and other personal property is at far greater risk.

It's also somewhat ludicrous to use national statistics to say any specific crime is up or down. Homicides may be down nationally but try and convince those people living in Chicago, Detroit, WA, DC, etc where it has been a regular occurrence to see double digit death tolls on weekends.

Using national numbers is like making someone stand with one foot in a bucket of scalding water, the other in ice water, and then trying to convince them they're only standing in warm water.
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doesn't each generation say the same basic thing (different subjects tho) lol
Generation?? Its more like next week at the rate cell phones and computers change. I have a new IPhone 6, new to me but my nephew has already told me I needed a new phone.
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only facts that I know are.. I still have a few 4-tracks tapes and a Craig 4 tracks player. still have several 8 track tapes, no player though. still have a box full of casset tapes, and yes still have a daily driver GMC with factory tape player, yep I may me old but I still have fun.. o ya have a few cd's and a cd player in the bike faring.. life is good
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only facts that I know are.. I still have a few 4-tracks tapes and a Craig 4 tracks player. still have several 8 track tapes, no player though. still have a box full of casset tapes, and yes still have a daily driver GMC with factory tape player, yep I may me old but I still have fun.. o ya have a few cd's and a cd player in the bike faring.. life is good
I have a 8 track player for the home stereo that plugs into the wall for power and into the aux plug behind the stereo, even kept a vhs player just incase
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