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03-11-2018, 08:49 PM
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Traveling Canada with Ammunition
Hey Y'all - first time poster. Plan to travel Canada this summer, entering from Detroit and exiting at Vancouver. Plan to ship personal firearms from Detroit (via UPS) to Seattle and retrieving same upon arrival. Would prefer to transport ammunition in travel trailer due to cost of shipping. Will I be in violation of any Canadian laws / rules for transport of the ammo in the trailer. Anyone with knowledge to would be appreciated. Thanks. Happy Trails.
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03-11-2018, 09:09 PM
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Disclosing ammo to CBSA will generally make you not well liked. Not disclosing it and getting caught will go even worse. Expect a full search of your rig to look for the firearms the ammo fits into. However, you don't require a license to possess ammo in Canada, but you will require one to purchase it. The Explosives Act covers ammunition...the Firearms Act covers guns. Don't expect a lot of knowledge from CBSA on the matter, either.
Finally, leaving the US with ammunition may actually violate US export laws. Look into that as well.
My suggestion: shipping ammo will be considerably cheaper than a charge on either side of the border, and less painful than a highly invasive search of you, and your entire rig. Ship it.
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03-11-2018, 09:19 PM
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I did a google search there are allot of rules and regs covering ammo. Would it not be easier to just leave the ammo home with someone and buy new once across the border in Seattle.
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03-11-2018, 09:24 PM
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Why? Trust me... You have the right to bear arms... In your country .. but not in ours. Would you try to being them in to any other country?
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03-11-2018, 09:26 PM
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I am with others; buy new when you reenter the USA
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03-12-2018, 10:14 AM
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WM tire provided two use full and informative links, read and decide. It can be done but not without a lot of paperwork.
Enjoy your trip across our beautiful country.
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03-12-2018, 10:35 AM
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If you read the fine print......you will learn that no matter what the regulations say, the agent at the border makes the FINAL decision. They are given the job of protecting their country and expected to not fail, so..... if you bring pistol ammo into Canada you can expect a thorough search of your rig and belongings. Been there done that! Not worth the lost time or worry!
By the way their job description does not include putting anything back where it came from. The next time you cross into Canada the agent will have notes on his computer screen regarding your previous crossing and your demeanor towards their duty. Be pleasant!
Travel safe
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03-18-2018, 08:15 AM
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Can you do it? - Yes. Is it worth all the paperwork and potential delays crossing into and out of Canada? - Not really. As others have suggested, as your final stop is back in the US, just buy what you need when you get there. However - make sure you have used it ALL before you make the return trip - entering Canada with undeclared ammo is going to get you a world of aggravation.
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03-18-2018, 08:58 AM
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Unless you’re planning a hunting trip up here, it’s best to leave that stuff on your side of the border. You’ll get through customs much faster. You might want to look further into what else will be considered a weapon (besides firearms) by our border security and make sure you don’t have anything on board when you cross the border.
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04-01-2018, 09:15 PM
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Definitely check on what is considered a weapon in Canada. I've been told that a can of pepper spray for personal protection is not allowed but bear spray (Same stuff) is OK.
If you have a hunting knife, store it in your tool box. Tools OK, knife for personal protection, a no-no.
Whatever you do when visiting Canada, don't ever tell a law enforcement officer you have constitutional rights. Those were checked at the border. Watched the results of one of those confrontations with a Constable. Took the party involved an extra day to get home. BTW, they were waiting for him at the border and he got a "second helping".
Be polite and a visit north will be great. Be rude and for some reason it just makes law enforcement happy to "educate".
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04-03-2018, 06:20 PM
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Pepper spray and bear spray. There is a huge difference in its potency...
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04-03-2018, 06:22 PM
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You only have constitutional rights in your own country... you don’t need guns here and we don’t want em... unless you are a hunter... and then your guide can fill you in
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04-03-2018, 06:24 PM
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not worth the risk. buy ammo when you get back to the states. If you are searched and they find ammo they are going to tear your trailer apart.
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04-03-2018, 06:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by colourful64
Pepper spray and bear spray. There is a huge difference in its potency...
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Personally I wouldn't like to be sprayed with either.
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04-03-2018, 06:33 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TitanMike
Personally I wouldn't like to be sprayed with either.
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Ive been sprayed several times during different training classes. Would much rather be sprayed then tazed.
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04-03-2018, 06:43 PM
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Not a good idea, just don't even a gun magazine (book) will give you huge problems.
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04-03-2018, 06:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by colourful64
You know... Canadians think it’s funny that you want to bear arms in Canada... with all the mass shootings in the states you would think you’d like to come to Canada and enjoy the freedom and safety
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There are people with mental defects in all countries and they will find the means to fulfill their twisted fantasies regardless of any laws.
Do a wikipedia search on Robert Picton (from BC). Then read how many women he abducted and fed to his pigs.
FWIW I belong to a club that sends competitive shooters to canada regularly. Do the paperwork and no problems. Just like those who come here to compete and bring their firearms
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04-03-2018, 06:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kimber45
Ive been sprayed several times during different training classes. Would much rather be sprayed then tazed.
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I’ve been razed and peppered sprayed in training ... I can guarantee I would rather be razed. You don’t have a week of sore eyes and sinus with a taser
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04-03-2018, 06:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by colourful64
I’ve been razed and peppered sprayed in training ... I can guarantee I would rather be razed. You don’t have a week of sore eyes and sinus with a taser
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I don't know. The tazer training was the worst 5 second of my life. after 15 minutes under a garden hose I was fine from spray.
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