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Camping-man 08-18-2017 09:39 PM

Anyone tow with an expedition eco boost?
 
Just wondering if anyone has an expedition with eco boost engine as a TV.

We have a 2008 Suburban and an 07 expedition and they both do ok... I would like to upgrade to an ecoboost expedition for more towing power... we have a 23ikss.

I dont really have use for a truck, been a family of 5, the cargo space of the SUV is more useful.

clarkbre 08-19-2017 01:24 PM

I don't have experience towing with the Expy Eco; however, I do have an F150. The engine is very capable and works well for that size trailer.

My comment on whatever Expy you're looking at is to make sure it has the Heavy Duty Trailer Tow package. Your trailer is rated very close to the standard Expy's 6600lbs tow limit. The HD package bumps that up to the 9k pound range. That would buy you some room so that you're not constantly towing maxed out.

bikendan 08-19-2017 02:04 PM

Be sure to look at the Expy's payload capacity sticker.
SUVs have much lower numbers than their pickup counterparts.

Camping-man 08-19-2017 03:20 PM

They have a 1500 lb pay load. That's plenty for us.

Hersbird 08-19-2017 03:53 PM

I personally would also shop any of the GM SUVs with the new 6.2 direct injection paired with an 8 speed auto, that powertrain is the most powerful you can get in any 1/2 ton truck or SUV.

Camping-man 08-19-2017 04:51 PM

The 6.2L engine is nice, I would rather have the 6.0L 2500 Suburban but those are too expensive for a use vehicle and they have too many miles

jrk341 08-19-2017 05:17 PM

The 2018 expeditions look really nice. It will have the ecoboost with the 10 sp trans.

Hersbird 08-20-2017 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Camping-man (Post 1598573)
The 6.2L engine is nice, I would rather have the 6.0L 2500 Suburban but those are too expensive for a use vehicle and they have too many miles

The new 6.2 puts the 6.0 to shame. A new 5.3 beats the old 6.0 in every way. They are more than a 2018 Expedition though as you have to get a Denali or Escalade to get the 6.2. I don't see it as an option is a regular Tahoe or Suburban. Looks like at least $10,000 more than the Expedition but with the Expedition being new the GMs might have better rebates and such. All of them are way out of my price range LOL!

SuicideSaints 08-20-2017 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Camping-man (Post 1598526)
They have a 1500 lb pay load. That's plenty for us.



Remember people, cargo, weight of the hitch, and tongue weight all eat into available cargo. We were a family of 4 with a 7500 lb TT and we would have been well over on 1500 payload

Camping-man 08-20-2017 10:51 AM

The 6.0 is a work horse, very reliable, the 6.2L is very nice but more of a performance engine vs a tow/work vehicle. The 6.2l will do the job but the maintenance cost with it and mpg and add to the already more expensive vehicle. Don't get me wrong I like the Yukon Denali alot, buy I rather have the expedition torque. The new 2018 expedition is rated close to 500lbs of torque....

Camping-man 08-20-2017 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by SuicideSaints (Post 1599041)
Remember people, cargo, weight of the hitch, and tongue weight all eat into available cargo. We were a family of 4 with a 7500 lb TT and we would have been well over on 1500 payload

We don't carrie much in the vehicle when we camp, we keep most of the things in the camper with the exception of food.

We are no were near the 1500 lbs pay load.

BGKirkham 08-20-2017 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Camping-man (Post 1599160)
We don't carrie much in the vehicle when we camp, we keep most of the things in the camper with the exception of food.

We are no were near the 1500 lbs pay load.

Just because you put it in the camper doesn't mean it won't count towards payload. The weight you put on the hitch is payload.

jrk341 08-20-2017 11:20 AM

The torque for the expedition come in sooner because of the turbo's. The platinum series is rated at 480ft lbs of torque.

Camping-man 08-20-2017 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by BGKirkham (Post 1599172)
Just because you put it in the camper doesn't mean it won't count towards payload. The weight you put on the hitch is payload.

I know, but still I'm no were near 1500

mxdad 08-20-2017 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Camping-man (Post 1599157)
The 6.0 is a work horse, very reliable, the 6.2L is very nice but more of a performance engine vs a tow/work vehicle. The 6.2l will do the job but the maintenance cost with it and mpg and add to the already more expensive vehicle. Don't get me wrong I like the Yukon Denali alot, buy I rather have the expedition torque. The new 2018 expedition is rated close to 500lbs of torque....

Don't sell the 6.2 short. I towed a 26RR loaded to 7600# with an 08 Escalade ESV and never lacked for power. Traded it in with 173k trouble free miles. Maintenance never consisted of more than oil changes and all fluid changes every 60k. Towing MPG won't differ between the 3 motors to make a difference.

dpbain1 08-20-2017 01:01 PM

I have a 2017 Expedition with the 3.5 ecoboost engine with the heavy duty tow package and pull a 34 ft. 6700 lb. (dry weight) travel trailer. So far, I have had no problems whatsoever other than sway issues. The sway mechanism Ford puts in the Expedition I feel is pretty much useless and learned (the hard way) to install a couple of anti-sway bars that helped considerably.
I might add the ecoboost engine would quite likely be much more economical to drive than the GM engines with everyday routine non-towing driving.

Was 08-20-2017 01:45 PM

We have a 2016 Expedition EL 3.5 ecoboost with the tow package. We absolutely love it. Plenty of power towing and great gas mileage when not towing.

Stovebolt 08-20-2017 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Camping-man (Post 1599157)
The 6.0 is a work horse, very reliable, the 6.2L is very nice but more of a performance engine vs a tow/work vehicle. The 6.2l will do the job but the maintenance cost with it and mpg and add to the already more expensive vehicle. Don't get me wrong I like the Yukon Denali alot, buy I rather have the expedition torque. The new 2018 expedition is rated close to 500lbs of torque....

My problem with the 6.2 is the fact you have to use premium fuel. The Eco's you use regular and the manual says you should use premium when towing. I have an eco and I have towed with it using regular and premium and notice no difference. Why spend all that money on premium;) gas when you don't have to.

wifi_guy 08-20-2017 08:24 PM

We have a 2015 Expedition EL with the Eco Boost; my wifes vehicle. We also have a 2015 F-150 Platinum with the Eco Boost; my vehicle.

We have a 2017 Rockwood Signature Ultra Lite (8312SS Model) and I have towed that with both our Expedition and F-150.

I prefer towing our Rockwood with my F-150 VS the Expedition. The shocks are set up differently. My wife's Expedition is definitely kooshier (If that's even a word. LOL)

But the engines are the same and both handle the Rockwood without any trouble. Just make sure you have the tow package and you'll be fine no matter what you do.

wifi_guy 08-20-2017 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by dpbain1 (Post 1599259)
I have a 2017 Expedition with the 3.5 ecoboost engine with the heavy duty tow package and pull a 34 ft. 6700 lb. (dry weight) travel trailer. So far, I have had no problems whatsoever other than sway issues. The sway mechanism Ford puts in the Expedition I feel is pretty much useless and learned (the hard way) to install a couple of anti-sway bars that helped considerably.
I might add the ecoboost engine would quite likely be much more economical to drive than the GM engines with everyday routine non-towing driving.

Sway control in the Ford's is more of a safety thing. Either way you still want a hitch with that built in as well, weight diff is a plus as well in a hitch.


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