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Ken Y 11-05-2017 06:46 PM

Ford 2.7 ecoboost
 
Anyone toe with a Ford 2.7 ecoboost. My camper dry wt. is 4305 lbs, don't plan on anything heavier, any suggestions. Thanks

ronheater70 11-06-2017 09:02 AM

Lots of people have spoken on here of them in the past, most give it a pretty favorable rating. Do you already own the truck, or just planning to purchase?
It would be awesome with the weight your describing.

Ken Y 11-06-2017 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ronheater70 (Post 1664391)
Lots of people have spoken on here of them in the past, most give it a pretty favorable rating. Do you already own the truck, or just planning to purchase?
It would be awesome with the weight your describing.

Planning to buy, found a 2015 low milage, all features we are looking for at a decent price, just wasn't sure on how good the 2.7 would be for pulling the camper. Thanks for getting back to me.

dlwilliams48 11-06-2017 11:38 AM

We have a 2013 F-150 Eco boost, crew cab, towing package. Our trailer has a published dry weight of about 5,000. We have had no issues at all pulling the trailer. We've gone as far west as the hill country of Texas, and as far north as Ontario. We really like the Eco boost.

clarkbre 11-06-2017 11:49 AM

Not sure the exact trailer you're pulling but it looks like possibly a small Surveyor from your other posts?

Regardless of that, if the dry weight is 4305, the loaded, wet weight is probably close to 5300 or so.

That being said, the 2.7L F150's are rated anywhere from 7600-8500 pounds towing capacity. Even if you left a 20% maximum trailer weight buffer, that would still leave you at about 6080 pounds.

https://www.ford.com/resources/ford/...0_r1_Jan12.pdf

With a properly set up WDH, that truck and trailer would likely be a very nice driving combination. And, while not towing, the truck will get very good fuel economy.

The one thing I would suggest more than anything with that truck is to make sure it has the integrated brake controller and tow package. If it doesn't, the brake controller is a much needed and worthwhile upgrade.

Ken Y 11-06-2017 12:15 PM

Does you truck have a standard tow package or the max package ? Thanks

clarkbre 11-06-2017 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Ken Y (Post 1664545)
Does you truck have a standard tow package or the max package ? Thanks

If you're refering to mine, it has the standard 535a tow package that includes the brake controller, 7 pin wiring harness, hitch, and transmission cooler.

Overall, the truck and trailer tow really well together. I wouldn't want anything bigger back there but the torque of the ecoboost really makes it feel more like a small diesel instead of the standard V8 that you'd have to rev high for power.

chris1911 11-06-2017 06:25 PM

2015 Ford F-150 2.7L EcoBoost: Ike Gauntlet Extreme Towing [Video] - The Fast Lane Truck

Steeljag 11-06-2017 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by dlwilliams48 (Post 1664515)
We have a 2013 F-150 Eco boost, crew cab, towing package. Our trailer has a published dry weight of about 5,000. We have had no issues at all pulling the trailer. We've gone as far west as the hill country of Texas, and as far north as Ontario. We really like the Eco boost.

Your 2013 is probably a 3.5, and not the 2.7 the OP is requesting info on ?

dlwilliams48 11-06-2017 06:45 PM

Pretty sure my 2013 F-150 is a 3.5L engine. Standard tow package and rated to tow a max of 7900-8000 lbs. CCC is rated at 1610 lbs. Towing I get 9-11 mpg, on the highway not towing around 21-22. Again, very pleased with my truck both for towing and just ordinary driving around. Very comfortable ride.

bikendan 11-06-2017 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by dlwilliams48 (Post 1664888)
Pretty sure my 2013 F-150 is a 3.5L engine. Standard tow package and rated to tow a max of 7900-8000 lbs. CCC is rated at 1610 lbs. Towing I get 9-11 mpg, on the highway not towing around 21-22. Again, very pleased with my truck both for towing and just ordinary driving around. Very comfortable ride.

But the OP is asking about the 2.7, not the 3.5.

I also own a 3.5 but I didn't respond cause I don't have any experience with the 2.7
Don't think the 2.7 was available in 2013.

eurojet 11-07-2017 12:10 AM

I currently tow a 5200# dry weight trailer with my 2.7 , have done many trips with it including a 6000 km trip from Ontario to Newfoundland and back. Some of the hills in NFL were very steep grades and she did fine . Mileage was ok when towing but when not it is fantastic . I just found the rear suspension to be soft so I added Bilstoens and replaced the factory bump stops. Most important is to find the right WD set up .

TallyBeach 11-07-2017 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Ken Y (Post 1664040)
Anyone toe with a Ford 2.7 ecoboost. My camper dry wt. is 4305 lbs, don't plan on anything heavier, any suggestions. Thanks

I have a 2016 F150 XLT with the 2.7 Ecoboost and tow package and tow a 6,800 TT with no problems at all (that's gross weight, not manufacturer's fantasy weight). We have been all through NC and Tennessee mountains and it handles the load with ease. Make sure the cargo capacity is adequate and that you have a properly installed and adjusted WDH and brake controller.

What I really like about this truck is that when I'm not towing I get @20 mpg around town and 24 on the highway.

dlwilliams48 11-07-2017 07:18 AM

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But the OP is asking about the 2.7, not the 3.5.
Yep, I understand... that's why I followed up my first post with the second, stating I have the 3.5. Initially I just saw "Ecoboost" and posted. Should not have responded to original post. Apologies to OP.

zorky 11-07-2017 08:58 AM

I have a 3.5 EB 2013 and my father-in-law has a 2015 EB with the 2.7. I have tested both trucks with the same camper and the 2.7 seemed the same for me. I have the max tow package so my gearing is slightly different. I would say the 2.7 towed just as good with really no complaints what so ever. The 2.7 seemed to have more pep with no trailer attached and it sounds like a V-8 when getting on it. My truck's turbos seemed to whistle louder than his 2.7 but sure if they are the same size diameter turbo or not. Comparing the 2 when towing a #6500 camper the 2.7 did perfectly fine. Both trucks are babied and have about 40k miles on them

thebrakeman 11-07-2017 04:35 PM

Yep, 2.7L EB in the F150 light-duty (aka P552L) became available in 2015 model year.

Different gearing between 2.7L and 3.5L trucks could leave them "feeling" similar with a trailer behind, although you would certainly see a different on the tach once cruising. But with max tow being on the 3.5L (and assuming the 2.7L does not), I would think your truck would be the towing monster in comparison. Does Max Tow include a axle upgrade, or is that a separate, standalone option?

clarkbre 11-07-2017 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by thebrakeman (Post 1665483)
...Different gearing between 2.7L and 3.5L trucks could leave them "feeling" similar with a trailer behind, although you would certainly see a different on the tach once cruising...

If the axle ratio is the same between the 2.7 and 3.5, the motor RPM would be identical. The 2.7 would just have slightly less HP and Torque (about 11%) to move the truck and trailer.

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Originally Posted by thebrakeman (Post 1665483)
...But with max tow being on the 3.5L (and assuming the 2.7L does not), I would think your truck would be the towing monster in comparison. Does Max Tow include a axle upgrade, or is that a separate, standalone option?

The 2015 F150 Tech Specs show that the 3.5 is available with the 3.15, 3.31 & 3.55 axle ratios whereas the 2.7 (& 5.0) is available with 3.31, 3.55 and 3.73 axles.

Both the 3.5 and 2.7 Ecoboost motors are impressive in that they pack that much HP and Torque into such small packages. Compared to the standard V8 offered by Ford, they have much more HP and Torque per cylinder than the 5.0:

Liter.....HP......Torque......Per Cylinder HP/Torque
3.5.......365.....420............60.8/70
2.7.......325.....375............54.2/62.5
5.0.......385.....387............48.1/48.4

Given that the OP's trailer is well within the towing capacity on any of the above listed truck/motor/axle combinations, they should all tow it with relative ease.

thebrakeman 11-08-2017 10:11 AM

Clarkbre,
I wasn't talking about same axle ratios. I clearly said, "Different gearing between 2.7L and 3.5L trucks...".


Thank you for the list of available ratios for each version. Do you know if the HD towing package, or the Max Towing package (or any other package), automatically includes a certain axle ratio, or is the axle choice completely independent.

Hersbird 11-08-2017 11:42 AM

The fast lane truck comparision even with the 3.55 gears thought the 2.7 felt quicker than the 3.5. Towing the gauntlet with the 2.7 the were limited by the speed limit all the way up although with only 7200 pounds in tow. The 6.4 Hemi Ram With 4.11 gearing slowed to 26 mph for 5 minutes although towing a 12,500 pound trailer. There was something in the computer pulling power on that Ram for some reason, but it happened repeatedly on 2 different trucks in two different tests. So big difference in the weights, but if your trailer is 8000 or under it should be golden with a 2.7. It leaves a bunch of payload as well as that is the lightest motor, in the lightest full size truck. I saw a used 2015 crew cab 4x4 With 50k on it for $26,000 locally which makes me consider trading the Cummins in on.

bluewoo 11-08-2017 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Hersbird (Post 1666018)
The fast lane truck comparision even with the 3.55 gears thought the 2.7 felt quicker than the 3.5. Towing the gauntlet with the 2.7 the were limited by the speed limit all the way up although with only 7200 pounds in tow. The 6.4 Hemi Ram With 4.11 gearing slowed to 26 mph for 5 minutes although towing a 12,500 pound trailer. There was something in the computer pulling power on that Ram for some reason, but it happened repeatedly on 2 different trucks in two different tests. So big difference in the weights, but if your trailer is 8000 or under it should be golden with a 2.7. It leaves a bunch of payload as well as that is the lightest motor, in the lightest full size truck. I saw a used 2015 crew cab 4x4 With 50k on it for $26,000 locally which makes me consider trading the Cummins in on.




Safety feature:
"Ram came back with the following explanation.
“Ram Truck ‘invented’ the first gear hold feature – and calibrated it – to avoid gear hunting and driving at excessively high rpm’s. Ike Gauntlet is a variable grade and we worked hard to develop a calibration that appropriately manages torque on this run and other grades. We don’t want the truck to rev high for extended periods of time and purposely hold 4,200 rpm.”


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