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MikeRP 12-01-2018 07:15 PM

New 34IK
 
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Hey everyone, just picked up our new CC 34 IK. Attachment 192494

Here’s a pic in rainy weather right before I stowed till next year[emoji22]. We ordered it and it came to the dealer a week before Thanksgiving.

The inspection went very well. It sits a little nose high so I may have it adjusted next year. The outside doors for the propane and for the battery compartment are very tight. But that was it, tech told me the inspection was basically nill. They had it very clean. We ordered it at Hatfield’s off RT 23 north of Delaware Ohio, [emoji106] thanks to them.

Forest River put a booth dinette in for us and it is beautiful. The table top is made from the same wood as the rest of the coach and it looked like a furniture company put it together. Plus it can be a bed for my grandkiddies.

I definitely have a lot to learn. Lots of technology. I had to drive it through a rain storm as my first tow for about 45 minutes. Truck is a 2018 Ram Cc 3500 SWB SB. Truck felt in charge of the trailer and it towed and stopped very easy.

Anyway, right now we are very pleased.

spock123 12-01-2018 08:10 PM

Enjoy your new Creek, grandkids are a joy. Spoil them and send them home

MillMitch 12-01-2018 10:06 PM

Welcome to the forum from MN.

MikeRP 12-01-2018 10:40 PM

Thanks I’m a long time Forest River Fanboy. I’ve had 2 Rockwood pop ups, a Rockwood hybrid, and a Class C Sunseeker and now this Cedar Creek. They have all been nice campers. But this by far is the prettiest one I’ve ever owned. I hope it holds up well!

SilhouettePenny 12-01-2018 10:41 PM

Congrats, we did the same thing last week. Drove it home in the rain and hated to put it away wet. You're right, almost too much technology but it should make travels more enjoyable.

Old Bleu 12-02-2018 07:32 PM

Congratulations, that's a good looking rig! We picked up our Silverback 33IK in Ohio in October. Fortunately, we got it back to Georgia and managed to get in one trip in before winterizing it.

We like it a lot. Only problem we've encountered is that one latch on the battery compartment door does not protrude deep enough to engage. We have an appointment with Amish Family RV in May, and I'm sure that Orvan can take care of that for us as well as any other potential problems that he may find.

MikeRP 12-02-2018 09:40 PM

Can you give me Orvans number I probably should have mine inspected before next fall? I have the same problem though probably not as bad as you.

Thanks!

Old Bleu 12-03-2018 07:49 AM

I believe Orvan's number is (260) 593-0951. When the machine answers, you hit option 1 to leave a message for the shop.

We were able to schedule a date in May to coincide with a trip to Michigan. We bought our trailer on October 17th, so wanted to have it checked out by Orvan while it is still under warranty.

camaro80 12-03-2018 08:58 AM

Hey, that's a pretty nice rig all around, MikeRP, truck included! We did much the same thing, purchasing a used 35K just before our Canadian Thanksgiving so didn't get a chance to use it yet. But one nice way of passing a Canadian winter is planning our camping adventures for next year!

Splashes3 12-07-2018 06:52 PM

MikeRP - we have emailed each other, but I wasn't sure who you were. Well, this is the first time I've seen your setup....Very nice Mike!

I sure hope you like it....and yes, Old Bleu (Tim - I know him) has given you the correct info for Orvan.....we took our brand new 2019 34RL2 straight from the dealer in Cincinnati to Orvan.....we didn't know what was wrong since we hadn't spent any time in it....he still looked it over and found several things that would end up being problems in a few years....all work ($1000) was billed to the factory. He said it was one of the better built units.....which we passed along to the factory....since we know a few of those folks also and stopped in while at Orvan's. He's like 2 miles from the factory.

We just added disk brakes to our unit, but really haven't been able to take it out...she's covered for the winter.

Enjoy - safe travels,
Mike (Splashers3 on RV.Net)

MikeRP 12-07-2018 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Splashes3 (Post 1986338)
MikeRP - we have emailed each other, but I wasn't sure who you were. Well, this is the first time I've seen your setup....Very nice Mike!



I sure hope you like it....and yes, Old Bleu (Tim - I know him) has given you the correct info for Orvan.....we took our brand new 2019 34RL2 straight from the dealer in Cincinnati to Orvan.....we didn't know what was wrong since we hadn't spent any time in it....he still looked it over and found several things that would end up being problems in a few years....all work ($1000) was billed to the factory. He said it was one of the better built units.....which we passed along to the factory....since we know a few of those folks also and stopped in while at Orvan's. He's like 2 miles from the factory.



We just added disk brakes to our unit, but really haven't been able to take it out...she's covered for the winter.



Enjoy - safe travels,

Mike (Splashers3 on RV.Net)



Hey Splashers, sent you a PM.

SimchaSabre 12-20-2018 07:00 PM

Also looking at 34IK. Does anyone know what is in lower space to the right of the W/D hook-ups in the closet besides plumbing.

Also...We'd be installing washer only but looks like access to the space above the hookups would not be accessible.

SilhouettePenny 12-21-2018 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by SimchaSabre (Post 1992191)
Also looking at 34IK. Does anyone know what is in lower space to the right of the W/D hook-ups in the closet besides plumbing.

That space is most likely for the optional Cadet Self-Regulating wall heater.

tomkatb 12-21-2018 08:48 AM

We have a Cedar Creek Hathaway 34RE. The front area appears the same.

As stated to the right of the washer is an area with nothing. Often the electric heater is installed there.

Looking at the left side of the closet there is some room behind the wall. I have thought about putting a matching door on the right side. .

Access to the top of the area would be a little limited by the washer. We store small items there. With a washer and dryer the access is very limited.

Although the washer dryer cuts down on closet space we do not mind. Frankly we carry little hanging stuff.

Wife dearly loves the washer and dryer. She likes going home after a trip with clean clothes.

SimchaSabre 12-21-2018 11:17 AM

For some reason, it bugs me have available space without access. Even though we probably won't need the storage, I'd still look for ways to get to it like adding a matching door as previously mentioned.

Daycruiser 01-01-2019 12:26 PM

Does anybody know exactly what the differences are between the 34IK and 34RL2? I know the 34RL2 and 34IK are separated by some weight and very little length differences. Just trying to understand why CC would build two units that appear so similar except for what I mentioned. Have not been able to see either of them, nobody stocks much CC around here and have been to both Hershey and Tampa with no luck seeing them both to figure it out or ask the rep why? Trying to figure out why I would buy one over the other?

SimchaSabre 01-01-2019 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Daycruiser (Post 1997504)
Does anybody know exactly what the differences are between the 34IK and 34RL2? I know the 34RL2 and 34IK are separated by some weight and very little length differences. Just trying to understand why CC would build two units that appear so similar except for what I mentioned. Have not been able to see either of them, nobody stocks much CC around here and have been to both Hershey and Tampa with no luck seeing them both to figure it out or ask the rep why? Trying to figure out why I would buy one over the other?

Also looking at 34IK and we prefer it to the 34RL2. From the bath forward, they are pretty much identical except for a few cosmetic differences...but for us we prefer the 34IK kitchen layout. Larger work areas on both sides of the stove and a small but useful to us, pantry. This was very obvious to us seeing it in person.

You might try checking out YouTube for several walk through videos, if you are not able to do a live visit. They helps us out a lot. Here are a couple:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFwc0WnIyEo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=isDFBJoY36o

But it is curious that CC would have 2 such similar floorplans. The 34 IK is a new floor plan just introduced last year, but the 34 RL2 is not that much older either, updating and ultimately replacing the similar 34 RL a few years ago.

I think CC intentionally keeps their floor plan choices to a minimum (especially compared to some other brands) probably to have fewer variables in the manufacturing process. It wouldn't surprise me to see the 34 RL2 go away in the future and replaced it with a more feature differentiated floorplan. I would personally like to see one in the 35'-36' range, but the way the higher end 5w's are going, it probably will be 45'

Daycruiser 01-01-2019 04:15 PM

Thanks, the differences in the videos are so minor that it makes me think that CC is building both for the time being to see which kitchen sells better then drop the lesser selling one completely.

MikeRP 01-01-2019 05:46 PM

Yeah at first we were getting the 34rl2. But when I saw the 34IK at Couch’s in person, well that was it. I think the RL2 has a 55 inch tv versus 50 inch. But the workspace around the stove is the difference maker.

SimchaSabre 01-01-2019 07:07 PM

That + the kitchen window is what sold us too.

Daycruiser 01-02-2019 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeRP (Post 1997675)
Yeah at first we were getting the 34rl2. But when I saw the 34IK at Couch’s in person, well that was it. I think the RL2 has a 55 inch tv versus 50 inch. But the workspace around the stove is the difference maker.

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Originally Posted by SimchaSabre (Post 1997715)
That + the kitchen window is what sold us too.


You're both right, these two things would push the IK over the finish line with my DW. She could care less how big the TV is.

tcrossan 01-21-2019 10:51 PM

Well, we just placed our order for a '19 34IK Saturday at the Tampa Super Show. Should be here 1st w of March.
Questions now come up that we hadn't thought of as we were so busy comparing brands other than FR.
1. What type and how many batteries should we expect installed in the unit or should we negotiate for?
2. What type tires are they shipping with this month?
3. We expected 80 gallons of gray water but got 2x40 gallon tanks. How well does that work in non-sewer sites?

SimchaSabre 01-22-2019 01:11 AM

Also getting ready to order a 34IK and I too would like questions 1 & 2 answer. As for #3..we have 2 42 gal greys now. On the rare occasion that we need more capacity, we carry an extra twist on dump valve, then we just open both greys and allow the grey waste water to seek it's own level.


By the way..what were some of the options you ordered. Among the more common options, we're going to order it with the 18 cuft rv refer and with a std 12 gal rv water heater.

tcrossan 01-22-2019 07:36 AM

SimchaSabre
 
We ordered the slide toppers, propane/electric water heater as we enjoy state parks and many of them do not have a sewer connection. The factory rep advised that the O.D. water heaters use a bit more water and would fill up our tanks faster. We also swapped the King mattress for a queen to give us a little more ingress/egress room around the bed. We also have a 3" talalay latex topper and mattress heater both in queen and don't want to have to replace those.
We also went with the resi refrigerator. Which bring up the question about the batteries. Our current unit has 2 very large AGM batteries and will run our fridge and a small wine cooler for over 2 days on a single charge.

SimchaSabre 01-22-2019 07:59 AM

We're also wondering about the battery requirements because this will be our first RV with hydraulics. Just wondering if the pump needs the extra capacity.

X2 on the Queen Mattress for similar reasons. We'd also prefer the 8" as opposed to the 10" Do you recall the brand of mattress.

Also, I'm seeing that the units are coming in with a "Cedar Creek Special Features Package" for ~1,400 MSRP extra. Any idea what that includes.

btw... We'll be visiting the Cedar Creek plant in 2 weeks. Maybe we see your unit being built.

tcrossan 01-22-2019 08:23 AM

SimchaSabre
 
Take some pix of ours while you're there! That'd be great!😊

I show the following on the build sheet for $1,450 and listed as standard equipment
Jack & Jill Bathroom sinks
USB ports, kitchen & bedroom
In Command Control Sys with phone remote app
New decorative ceiling panels w flaf roof design
New 2 tone dining table & 4 chairs
Bedroom package redesign
Redesigned island w LED backlighting
Furrion chefs kitchen w gas cooktop
New panoramic window in kitchen above cooktop
Intervac central vac system
Heated storage compartment with diamond tread flooring
Solid wood European beach facial design
New quick disconnect LP gas Line

tomkatb 01-22-2019 08:26 AM

Batteries. We chose 4 interstate golf cart batteries. As we do not have a residental fridge battery capacity is not much of an issue. We are good for a week easy. We plug in often enough recharging with a generator(Honda 2200) has never need necessary.

Costco sells them for less than $400. Our dealer installed them for about $300.

If you did nothing they will install a Marine battery with about 50 amps of available. No way on a residental fridge. Our set up has 250 plus amps available.

Our fiver, a RE34 had Westlake tires.

Our two 40 gallon gray tanks work fine. I do have the screw on valve to balance tanks, but never needed it. And often we do limited laundry in sites without sewers. Plenty of capacity for two for long weekends.

tcrossan 01-22-2019 09:17 AM

Tomkatb
 
Thanks for the information.
How are the Westlakes holding up? I've read good things about them but having never had a blowout I'd like to keep the "streak" going!
Where did you get the "screw on" valve?
And where does one store the sewer hose when traveling? In my Cameo I had a sleeve mounted in the sidewall that held a really good Wastemaster hose assembly and had a locking door which made it all neat and tidy.

tomkatb 01-22-2019 12:24 PM

Do not know exactly where I bought my valve. Amazon I think. About $20.

We have 6-7,000 miles on the Westlake tires. Never needed air in them. So far so good. Hit a number of serious potholes. Broke the mounting screws out of the tv. Trim over the closet doors fell off. All fixed.

This was our first rv. Purchased in March. I bought a ton of stuff via Amazon. Free shipping.

Our tube thing for the sewer hose broke off. No good anyway as no hose would not fit in it anyway. Fittings too big. I am sure something fits. I bought a large plastic container for the front storage area that seals well. We carry 30’ just in case.

MikeRP 01-22-2019 05:49 PM

I have interstate (2) 27 deep cycle batteries. Says it does 25 amps for 160 min. I’m assuming I get that for both batteries discharging at 50%.

So I should have 400 amps. Am I doing that right?

MikeRP 01-22-2019 05:52 PM

Looks like tcrossan and I ordered the same trailer. Excerpt they made us a booth dinette which turned out beautiful.

Could everyone say what they are going to tow their 34IK with?

MikeRP 01-22-2019 05:56 PM

Or is it 10 amps for 400 minutes? Or 5 amps for 800 minutes?

MikeRP 01-22-2019 05:57 PM

Also how much will my truck charge the batteries while going down the road?

MikeRP 01-22-2019 06:00 PM

Another question, could everyone tell what pin box there are using and tomkatb, what kind of fuel mileage are you getting?

bikendan 01-22-2019 06:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeRP (Post 2010421)
Also how much will my truck charge the batteries while going down the road?

Most tow vehicles only provide a trickle charge at best.

tomkatb 01-22-2019 07:58 PM

I have the standard factory pin box. I use the Anderson ultimate hitch. Works well. Weighs #27.

My Ram diesel got 11.3 mpg for our trip of 4,000 miles. The fiver is just under #12,000, #16,000 max loaded. Lots of hills. Not a lot of miles without the fiver.

I would recommend a diesel 3500 to tow yours. I have the lightest hitch weight Cedar Creek fiver. I mistakenly bought a 2500. However, I am under axle weights. I also have the lightest hitch.

Love our unit. Stuff works. Very comfortable.

tcrossan 01-22-2019 08:43 PM

Ok, so if my recollection is correct, batteries are rated in amp hours. There is a lot of good information on the Web about setting up an efficient and safe battery bank. Here is one that may help.
How to Size a Battery Bank: An AIMS Power Tech Tip | AIMS Power Inverters

tcrossan 01-22-2019 09:20 PM

Another good site and should get any of us headed in the right direction.
https://www.powerstream.com/battery-...lculations.htm

Mikerp
We ordered the Trailair pin box as we've used the 5th Airborne version in the past and they are very good.
We will tow with our 2012 F350crew cab, SRW with which we've been pulling our 08 Cameo.
Fuel mileage is from 9 to 11.5 depending on the terrain, wind, humidity and cruise control off. I assume the CC will be similar.

SimchaSabre 01-22-2019 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeRP (Post 2010414)
Looks like tcrossan and I ordered the same trailer. Excerpt they made us a booth dinette which turned out beautiful.

Could everyone say what they are going to tow their 34IK with?

I'm working on a 2019 3500 Ram HD HO CTD. The race is just beginning to see which gets here first...the truck or 34IK

MikeRP 01-22-2019 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SimchaSabre (Post 2010525)
I'm working on a 2019 3500 Ram HD HO CTD. The race is just beginning to see which gets here first...the truck or 34IK



Cool are you getting a SRW or a DRW?


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