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Maris 10-19-2014 10:20 AM

Buying a used trailer
 
We are debating between buying a new or used trailer. Found one on line (Craig's list & Kijiji) that seems "too good to be true". Before we travel 200 miles to look at it, is there any way I can check on liens against it or any other funny business.




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2010 Shamrock 23SS
2008 Dodge Ram Quad Cab

davel1971 10-19-2014 10:31 AM

not everything on Craigslist is bad, but it has more scams than anywhere. I would ask lots of questions and demand lots of pictures before wasting time. If they aren't cooperative, than better off not to deal with them, for obvious reasons.

Maris 10-19-2014 11:00 AM

Thanks Dave & Lynn - one of the new trailers we are looking at is actually a Coachman Catalina. Lower end than yours but we like the layout. I did ask for a VIN# and where he purchased the TT from. I'll see if he responds.

GreenImp 10-19-2014 11:20 AM

I am not aware of any way to verify there are no liens other than seeing the title in person (NOT the registration of course). A lien against the vehicle is only an inconvenience anyway. You would just meet the seller at their bank to close the deal. If the seller owes more than the selling price, the seller would have to have the difference on hand at the time of sale.

Did you find the ad in his territory, or was he advertising it in your territory? My opinion on long distance CL deals is that if the seller is advertising in areas other than their own, then they need to "go the extra mile" to help with the sale. If I find a long distance deal in another area, then the extra effort is all on my shoulders (it's great when they still help though).

As previously mentioned, ask for pictures. I suggest a lengthy "interview" of sorts over the phone before traveling (ask about the title at this time). If you feel good after the call, make the trip! If you get an uneasy feeling after the call, I would say your done.

FWIW, I bought our "used" (4 weekends) trailer private party over long distance (over 2000 miles). Deciding whether or not to make that trip was one of the more difficult decisions I ever made. In the end, I am VERY glad I did.

Maris 10-19-2014 11:26 AM

Green Imp
Thanks for your suggestions. I did get a VIN number from the seller. He bought the trailer privately. We won't be travelling as far as you did but I may have my husband call him. If I can convince him to have a look. What did make me a little nervous is that I found the add on Kijiji as well as an earlier add on Craigslist. Under the add on Craigslist was a warning about "too good to be true" prices and then it was listed at a reduced again price on Kijiji. If we do go to look I will post. The pictures look great, but I know that we have to see it to be sure.

davel1971 10-19-2014 11:29 AM

we love our Coachmen. It isn't any better or worse than any of the other 2 brands we have owned.

GASPEDDLER 10-19-2014 11:58 AM

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We bought our 2011 from craigslist 3 years ago to the month. You just have to do as you would with any ad whether autotrader or the local paper. Go slow and ask to see registration paperwork, title or even bank loan papers. Ask him if he would mind taking you to his bank to speak with the loan department. CYA

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GreenImp 10-19-2014 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Maris (Post 721746)
Under the add on Craigslist was a warning about "too good to be true" prices and then it was listed at a reduced again price on Kijiji.


You haven't mentioned any numbers, so the "Too good to be true" prices they are referring to are more like a $20,000 vehicle for say 3 or $4,000. This is almost ALWAYS accompanied with a sob story and a request for money sight unseen. If the deal is more like a $20,000 trailer for say $15,000, than it is more likely a "fire sale" or in other words someone desperate to sell fast. This can be for financial reasons or due to problems with the trailer. A good thorough inspection is about the only way to protect yourself from the latter. Another way to expose scams is to search for the same vehicle ad in other parts of the country. Scammers normally write one ad and post it in dozens or even hundreds of places...sometimes changing a few words.

You can use Search Tempest to search all Craigslist sites across the country at once in seconds. Choose your search words from the ad you found to narrow down the results.
SearchTempest: Search all of Craigslist nationwide & more

Oh yeah..one more thing. I will often do a Google search on any (verified) information I have about a seller (phone number, address, business name, etc.). You can learn a lot this way sometimes, but often times get no useful results.

Maris 10-19-2014 01:15 PM

Thanks. I'll try that. The trailer was new in 2011 for 31,000. It checks out. Now asking 12,000. We will contact the seller next week & go see it if it hasn't sold. Not a HUGE discount but by far the cheapest in the trailer we are looking for.


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Vallgrlx2 12-07-2014 12:34 PM

Be sure and take a ladder with you and check the roof, have the water tank filled up to check the water system. There is a "walk through list" available online. Or ask on this forum

CardinalQueen 12-07-2014 02:59 PM

Buying a used trailer
 
Word of caution
I agree with checking the roof, but we did that and within a month we had to completely replace it for $5,000+. We bought a 4year old 40' Cardinal that we traveled from SC to
Houston to pick up. I knew I wanted the gell coat paint and the large back window and there were only 2 we could find on line. It had been in storage (covered, climate controlled) and we had 3 tires blow out...and 3 fenders torn up on our way home. That cost another $3,000 to replace tires and paint the new fenders. We do still love our unit but have had some expensive repairs we weren't bargaining for.

Maris 12-07-2014 05:17 PM

Thanks! We got nervous about used & decided on new. We will be getting a 2015 Rockwood 2604 in the spring. Our 2010 still smells new & so many of the used trailers we saw weren't well cared for.

Jfmf527 12-07-2014 06:03 PM

i purchased a used 28ft forest river on craigs list. trailer is great we got an excellent deal just b sure to ask alot of questions and make sure u get the title

ryand 12-19-2014 09:00 AM

We bought our TT from a dealer used. It was an 2011 that was less than a year old at the time. I looked at Craigslist extensively and found that i really didn't pay a premium from buying from a dealer especially once arrived at a number. Plus I knew that I was buying a unit free of a loan and the dealer threw in a 1 year warranty at no cost.

This time of year it might pay to look at the dealers lots, they may still have units that they took in after the fall show they would be really happy to unload.

dustman_stx 12-19-2014 09:12 AM

95% of the used campers I've ever looked at, even the ones that were a year old, were not well maintained. Many were smoked in and the majority had been owned by pet owners. Most bunkhouses had significant damage to the interior- apparently most people let their kids run wild in their campers. I sold a our 2012 Puma 30DBSS after 2.5 years of use and you couldn't tell anyone had ever camped in it, even though we had used it for ~150 nights. One minor ding on the outside from the lawn mower chunking a rock. Other than that, perfect. I wouldn't buy a used one now that wasn't in that type of condition, but apparently very few people are as anal about maintenance and upkeep as me. Plus, I can buy brand new from RVWholesalers for what local dealers want for 1-2 year old used campers, so why bother?

RhoZeta 12-19-2014 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by dustman_stx (Post 752395)
Many were smoked in and the majority had been owned by pet owners.

LOL just about every ad you see on craigslist and rv trader claims non smokers and no pets, which is odd because 90% of every camper I see has at least one dog, usually more...


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Originally Posted by dustman_stx (Post 752395)
Plus, I can buy brand new from RVWholesalers for what local dealers want for 1-2 year old used campers, so why bother?

Eggsactly

Rockwoodjoe 12-19-2014 11:27 AM

I consider myself lucky. We bought a 2005 Sun Valley 27' TT five years ago. We paid $7,500 and used it for four seasons in Florida. Replaced the microwave and thermostat during ownership. When we traded it I replaced the tires (nine years old, shame on me), had some soft floor issues repaired, and replace the awning. We spent about $2,400. total thinking I could sell it outright. But the dealer for our new rockwood made it to easy to trade it. I kept thinking that if I sold it and the new owner had issues with a 10 year old unit he would want some recompense. I think you get lucky with used RVs once in a lifetime. After reading the forum I don't think I will ever buy used again.

Cajun Po-Boy 12-19-2014 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by RhoZeta (Post 752416)

LOL just about every ad you see on craigslist and rv trader claims non smokers and no pets, which is odd because 90% of every camper I see has at least one dog, usually more...

Eggsactly

Dogs and campers don't mix for me, why we never buy used...just the thought of someone's furry friend dragging it's rear end all over the carpet, sofa or bed to scratch an itch....yikes!! LOL




dustman_stx 12-19-2014 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Cajun Po-Boy (Post 752452)
Dogs and campers don't mix for me, why we never buy used...just the thought of someone's furry friend dragging it's rear end all over the carpet, sofa or bed to scratch an itch....yikes!! LOL

Wow. I had only considered the wet, nasty feet getting tracked in. And the dog smell. Now that you've brought up butt scratching on the floor/sofa/etc., it's at a whole new level.

donanddona 12-19-2014 12:21 PM

Boy you guys need to live I mean really live in an RV. Did you trade in your RV (at auction pricing?), did you buy your house from blueprints? Yes I will only buy new. I have three dogs, shampoo thee to four times a hear, replaced some carpet, floated a floor and yes I also love camping with the grandchildren. Scratch and dents are part of value and part of life....


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