Heater runs too much

[deathmiester]

I have a 2022 No-Bo 19.6
Very disappointed with the quality and workmanship. Mostly sorted out now... The issue here is that the heater comes on, heats the trailer and shuts off. Then within 3 minutes it's on again. It runs almost constantly. Anyone else have this issue? Is there a history of large air leaks? How is it that a modern, new winterized trailer can't keep any heat in?!
Any suggestions?

 

[Capacitor]

What temperatures are you seeing camping ?

 

[deathmiester]

30s

 

[NMWildcat]

A lot depends on what you set the thermostat at.
If boondocking (no hookups), we put the thermostat down to 55° or below while sleeping, and then warm it up a bit in the morning upon rising.
If at hookups, we use electric heaters with thermostats to assist the propane heater.
RVs do not retain heat well, no matter what claims the salesman made.

 

[deathmiester]

We do similar. We sold a 2006 trailer to get this new one. The old one retained heat much better.

 

[bikendan]

I have a 2022 No-Bo 19.6

Very disappointed with the quality and workmanship. Mostly sorted out now... The issue here is that the heater comes on, heats the trailer and shuts off. Then within 3 minutes it's on again. It runs almost constantly. Anyone else have this issue? Is there a history of large air leaks? How is it that a modern, new winterized trailer can't keep any heat in?!

Any suggestions?

Please post what make and model number of your thermostat or post a pic of it.
Does it have an Auto setting?

 

[Bob K4TAX]

The walls are only 2" thick, the ceiling has little to no insulation, and there is little to no insulation in the floor. If there is a slide, there is an opening all around but filled with a flexible rubber gasket. Double or single-pane windows?

Yes, trailers are a bit drafty with a good bit of air exchange existing. Without supplemental heat, you'll not be as comfortable as at home. Plus you will consume lots of propane trying to keep it warm. About a 30-degree temperature differential, outside to inside is about it. Thus 30 outside, 60 inside if not too windy.

It is "camping" for gosh sake. Put on some clothes, a couple to three layers, at least.

The salesman's job is to sell. That doesn't include being knowledgeable or truthful.

Bob

 

[deathmiester]

Yes it has auto setting. Thermostat works fine, I think. The trailer just doesn't stay warm. It cools quickly so the heater has to run almost constantly.

 

[Bob K4TAX]

So what temperature are you attempting to keep inside?

I would also check with a separate thermometer just in case the thermostat isn't telling the whole story.

Bob

 

[deathmiester]

That's a good idea

 

[deathmiester]

We like low 50s for night. 68 daytime.

 

[Bob K4TAX]

From the 30s outside to 68 on the inside, it is going to be a challenge. I suggest you get a second opinion.......from a thermometer.

I've checked a lot of cracks and crevices on our TT to make sure there is no or to minimize airflow. The spray foam insulation works well at all the locations where wires and lines come through the floor into the living or cabinet space. If you choose to use the expanding type foam, be careful and not overfill. It expands and can crush things.

If installed, the flapper vent to the outside and over the stove should be closed except when in use. Likewise for any bath/shower vents. Check the weather strip around all doors and windows to be assured it is in place and has not fallen out, become misadjusted, or deteriorated.

Bob

 

[deathmiester]

Thanks. I've checked the windows. They're all good. Door seal is good. The seal on the slide is a possibility, need to pull the trailer out and check that closely. I'll check for spots that could use foam sealer. Does the ac unit let the heat go out?

 

[moose074]

On my 4th trl first trl was propane thirsty with the furnace much as you described. My second one wasn’t as bad but it was 42’ 5th wheel with 4 slides and an average size furnace. My third was 6 ft shorter same size furnace only two slides and the eclectic fireplace was within 10 ft of it. Bought my newest trailer December 31 I believe took delivery January 18 spent two days in it but temp never dropped below 55 those nights.

 

[bikendan]

We like low 50s for night. 68 daytime.

Expecting a basic TT to be well insulated in cold weather, without running the furnace a lot, is fantasy expectations.

 

[deathmiester]

We're just going by personal experience. Our 2006 jayfeather was able to stay warm in snowy weather. Lived in it while house shopping in December in Idaho. This no-bo is winterized, just doesn't retain heat like our older one did.

 

[Mr. Dan]

We're just going by personal experience. Our 2006 jayfeather was able to stay warm in snowy weather. Lived in it while house shopping in December in Idaho. This no-bo is winterized, just doesn't retain heat like our older one did.

So sorry but what are you describing as winterized?

 

[kenandterry]

We're just going by personal experience. Our 2006 jayfeather was able to stay warm in snowy weather. Lived in it while house shopping in December in Idaho. This no-bo is winterized, just doesn't retain heat like our older one did.

Winterized usually means you’ve either air blown all water related equipment or lines, or have completely filled them with RV antifreeze.

Trying to heat a rig during the winter has nothing to do with being winterized.

 

[deathmiester]

No, sorry. Winterized from the factory. So it has a sealed belly pan. Spray Foam insulation everywhere something passes through, like septic drain, heat pads on the tanks etc.
I just feel like there's someplace where the warm air is getting out and cold air is getting in. So far I haven't located where. Can the warm air go out through the AC unit?

 

[Bob K4TAX]

The AC is a recirculating air unit. No exhaust from the inside to the outside.

A point I just thought of........ The set points on the thermostat may be too close together. In other words, the turn on temp and turn off temp may be too close together. I'm not sure if there is an adjustment for this on the thermostat. That's why I say check the temperature in several locations with a thermometer.

Thermostat location? Could it be the air from the furnace is being directed toward the thermostat? If so, the furnace warms the thermostat and it then shuts the furnace off. The ambient cool air inside quickly cools the thermostat and it starts the furnace again. just thinking........which is always dangerous on my part.

Bob