Is this a good deal

As far as I know, dealers are paid by the manufacturer, to do the PDI.
It may not be as much as the dealers want though. Which is why dealers like CW, charge the customer more.

This isn’t accurate. If any issues are found that need to be corrected they can be filed for reimbursement, but the time to test everything isn’t paid(assuming they even do it). A typical dealer will spend less than an hour on PDI and it typically won’t be a highly trained tech. Any longer than that and they’ve found issues they can file for. So you’re basically paying almost $2k for a tech to spend an hour quickly checking it over. There are good dealers out there that put a good tech on rigs for PDI and actually go through everything like they should. These places are very often smaller local dealers and they often don’t charge for PDI or other bogus fees.
 
Thanks! Found one similar in the wildwood line but missing some key things we like. Two entrances, extra storage, etc. What do you guys think about extended warranties? Are they necessary and where is best place to get them if they are needed.
 
Thanks! Found one similar in the wildwood line but missing some key things we like. Two entrances, extra storage, etc. What do you guys think about extended warranties? Are they necessary and where is best place to get them if they are needed.


The so called "extended warranty" is really just a service contract. They do not cover everything. That being said it is basically an insurance policy that will pay for certain things to be fixed. They never cover everything; read carefully the coverage limits. Whether it is a good thing or not is highly debated. The thing to ask yourself is how much risk aversion you need to feel comfortable. You can take the money you would have paid for the contract and set it aside for your needs or hope the things that fail are ones that it covers. It just depends on your level of comfort. Most people come out ahead doing the savings model but some have been fortunate to have coverage on the repairs needed.
 
The more I read this thread the more I feel this is too much trailer too soon for Phil.

I know, I know "buy your second camper first" and all that but this is more like a third camper to me. Couple the size and weight with storage and maintenance requirements. And I assume this will be purchased on credit at an astounding interest rate.

And there's the question "Does or will my family like camping?" and what type of camping will you do? For example we rarely camp to camp. The days of $17/day state park camping are long gone. Decent hotel rooms are not that much more expensive it seems.

Crawl, walk, run is not unique to Army training. This purchase seems to be jumping over the first two.

Whatever Phil decides we'll be here to provide assistance.

-- Chuck
 
Some states have a law that says warranties can not be waved whether the purchaser signs the waiver or not. Maine is one of them.

I forced a dealer to take back an entire trailer after a design flaw was discovered after I took it home.

The dealer was claiming it wasn’t their problem because the warranty was from forest river and not the dealer. The dealer had the usual waiver hidden in the sales contract language. The Maine attorney general’s office said otherwise sighting maines no waiver law and 5 year implied warranty law.

They took it back dollar for dollar and sold me another trailer.

Moral of the story: don’t sign that waiver and check local laws
 
Dont pay the fees.

I do not ever pay the destination or prep fees . . . kinda. I really do not care what they charge for as long as the price is what I am willing to pay. I make an offer and they either accept or refuse. Once they accept they always try to add on the fees. I stick to what I offered or I walk. Pretty much works every time. The annoying part is when I walk away they usually wait until I am 30 min away to say, "ok we will do that deal". And yes they will make good deals on old inventory, they need to sell a certain amount of stock or they will not be given the same allotment from the dealers. Always be patient, if the deal doesn't seem right don't worry about losing it, another deal will always come along. Don't let the excitement or fomo sway your decision.

-BT
 
Thanks! Found one similar in the wildwood line but missing some key things we like. Two entrances, extra storage, etc. What do you guys think about extended warranties? Are they necessary and where is best place to get them if they are needed.

Why is a second entrance a key feature? It would really depend on the Floorplan to me. My Rockwood 2608BS has two, but there is a specific reason. With the slides in, you can't get from the front kitchen and living area to the rear bedroom and bathroom. The second entrance in the bedroom allows access to the bedroom and bathroom. On a lot of floorplans though, a second entrance would be of no value to me.
 
Extended warranties can be OK if you are not mechanically inclined, but for the average person not worth it. Before you do anything, read every word carefully. many require you to complete (aka pay for) dealer performed service every year which can be costly for simple thing you could do. Others have many exclusions. Remember most of the items in an RV are supplied by a third party OEM and are covered under their warranty.
 
We are new to the world of RV purchasing. We have rented Class C's in the past but never owned one.

Looking to pick up a 2025 forest river campsite reserve 26cj travel trailer to be pulled by an F150 XLT. Have negotiated 36% off MSRP but dealer still wants to charge $1,200 for freight and $1,995 for prep-towable.

Would love thoughts from the community on whether this is a good deal.

I thought about countering with agreeing to $600 for freight (that works out to $3.50/mile from dealer) and accepting the prep fee as I understand from a post I read here that the dealer is the last station in the assembly process. Also thought about asking them to throw in the required surge protector, jack pads, sewer hose and trailer leveling blocks?
Dont do it.........not an honest dealar in the bunch !
 
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We are new to the world of RV purchasing. We have rented Class C's in the past but never owned one.

Looking to pick up a 2025 forest river campsite reserve 26cj travel trailer to be pulled by an F150 XLT. Have negotiated 36% off MSRP but dealer still wants to charge $1,200 for freight and $1,995 for prep-towable.

Would love thoughts from the community on whether this is a good deal.

I thought about countering with agreeing to $600 for freight (that works out to $3.50/mile from dealer) and accepting the prep fee as I understand from a post I read here that the dealer is the last station in the assembly process. Also thought about asking them to throw in the required surge protector, jack pads, sewer hose and trailer leveling blocks?


That is too much trailer for your truck unless you will only pull on flatland. If you are determined though, get an out the door price on this comparable trailer at a non-CW dealer and see how it matches up. They will quote you online.

https://www.holmanrv.com/product/new-2025-forest-river-rv-wildwood-x-lite-263bhxl-2645575-29

I would get at least 3 online quotes to gauge your deal. Don't forget the weight distribution hitch costs.
 
Decision made---THANK YOU EVERYONE

I'm back. We ended up not going with the 26CJ (33') and ended up with a 25" 20AK. Substantially less weight and obviously shorter. The F150 has towed it 4 times now and appears to be doing OK although I wish now that I had bought the 3.5L or 5L back in 2015 when I bought the truck.

Thank you one an all for your guidance. I ended up getting a much better deal then I originally had.

For what it is worth I feel that CW is like any other national organization and the experience can differ by location. The CW I went to in Greenwood Indiana is one of their largest probably due to the proximity to the plant in Elkhart Indiana. I will tell you this location (sales and service) have been a great group to work with. Time will tell If that experience continues.

We really liked the exterior graphics and the storage space within the Campsite Reserve units compared to the other units we looked at. I will continue to check back to the forum but since I am not yet retired (which I really look forward to some day) my ability to monitor the forum is limited.

Thank you everyone again you have all been a phenomenal resource.

PS I winterized it myself for the first time last night. Easy Peezy!!!
 
Just went through this!

I just bought a 2025 MiniLite 2109S. We looked and priced many like units. We found it best to use RV Trader to see thee prices of the same year and model no matter where it was in the country. The price spreads were unbelievable. Focus on the lowest price units and email the seller and ask for the out the door price. Once you have that from the lowest priced advertised units you can make offers to any seller for the same unit. We ended up with the best deal in NC and we live in Ohio.

The key thing is to be patient, if you simply negotiate the price of the unit it is too easy for the dealer to add fees once your in their office. If your travelling some distance be sure to confirm the out the door price!

Good Luck!
 
I just bought a 2025 MiniLite 2109S. We looked and priced many like units. We found it best to use RV Trader to see thee prices of the same year and model no matter where it was in the country. The price spreads were unbelievable. Focus on the lowest price units and email the seller and ask for the out the door price. Once you have that from the lowest priced advertised units you can make offers to any seller for the same unit. We ended up with the best deal in NC and we live in Ohio.

The key thing is to be patient, if you simply negotiate the price of the unit it is too easy for the dealer to add fees once your in their office. If your travelling some distance be sure to confirm the out the door price!

Good Luck!

I’d suggest checking reviews as well. Also keep in mind that many places that have abnormally low prices are often cutting corners somewhere. That could be in places you don’t see- for example: 1. Did they actually do a thorough PDI with a qualified tech? 2. If they did find an issue during PDI was it fixed correctly or just half done or covered up? My .02 is to call a few of the dealers that have good reviews and are competitively priced. Then buy from the place that isn’t pushy and doesn’t use a bunch of scammy sounding sales gimmicks on you. Why reward those with no ethics with your business when a very small amount of leg work will get you to a good dealer that deserves your business?
 
Good Points!

Your additional buying points are very good. Since I learned that so many trailers were purchased out of state, viewing the feedback on the Dealer and the Trailer was very important. I did appreciate having purchased from a smaller dealer and not one of the large corporate dealers.

Being my first trailer purchase, I elected to buy new so that I had the factory warranty. It became clear that the likelihood of going back to the selling dealer for Service was unlikely.

Do you have any suggestions on how to locate the BEST local Authorized service center in my general area?

Thanks!
 
There are a lot of factors that can determine the best deal. Obvious things like distance to the dealer factor in. If you have to drive 10 hours to save $200, that isnt really a deal because of time and fuel cost. What time of year matters as well. You can watch the same RV from the same dealer fluctuate in price by $20k (or more) over a 6-9 month period. For example, in the spring it may have an advertised price of $65k (just making up a number). Because that is when the RV season is starting, so that excitement means people will pay more. You may see it rise up to $70k (or more). But then in the fall, as the season is winding down (and the new models are arriving) that same unit from that same dealer will be advertised for $45k. If someone were to finance that for say 15 years, that $20+k difference in price is probably $45k difference in out of pocket cost with interest, etc.

Fortunately the internet has made things a little bit easier. As others mentioned, a site like RVTrader can show you a wide range of prices, for what seems to be an identical unit. You can also use websites of large dealers like Camping World and see what their units sell for (and you can set it to a distance near you, or nationwide). Use the information to your advantage. Some dealers list all of their units at MSRP. Some list them with MSRP slashed out with their sale price, etc. Some have MSRP listed, slashed out, with a "contact us for best price" notation.

An example I will give you from our most recent RV purchase. We are no longer Forest River owners but we like the forum and the members here and there is more than enough crossover from one manufacturer to another, so we decided to stick around. But anyways, we started looking in January of this year. I would say we were passively looking. Meaning if we got the deal we wanted, we were ready to buy, but ONLY if we got the deal we wanted.

We visited a dealership in Danville VA that we had purchased from previously (twice, including the one we planned to trade in). They had a price of $85k advertised. We looked at it, we liked it, we sat down to discuss numbers. They gave us their sheet and it still said $85k. Which was about 17% off of MSRP. Needless to say we didnt purchase. The price we were looking for was more like 30% off MSRP. There were other dealers that had that price point, but we didnt like those specific units for one reason or another (for example, one had a huge gouge in the living room floor, through the linoleum and gouged out some of the plywood floor as well, they said they could repair it, but we just werent interested, looked like someone dropped a fridge on it or something?). We were willing to pay $73k in Danville, because we had previous dealings with them (but they were bought by a much larger corporation since our last purchase). They gave us the whole sales spiel about how they were practically losing money giving us this "great deal" (because they were gonna give us $23k for our trade, which is exactly what we expected to get from them, it was the sales price that made the difference). Anyways, to my point about price changing, we kept looking at all of those models from many different dealers. And we saw them go down to as low as $67k until the season was about to start, then they all went up to the $80+k price range. Then as it got to summer the prices started coming down again.

We found Camping World had one that they cut the price down to $63k. We called them, they still had it, the next day we drove 5 hours to see it, and made a deal. They only gave us $21k for the trade instead of the $23k that the other place had offered, but the sales price was $22k less, so I wasnt worried about it.

The best part, that original unit that we looked at in Danville, is still on their lot. If they had gone down to a reasonable number (30% off MSRP) we would have bought it. Instead we got ours (with a few upgraded features as well) for 42% off MSRP. They have begun reducing their price, and they are down to $79k from their original $85k. But it still hasnt sold. Because most people, like you, have the ability to look at the internet. And see what the price point is for comparable units.

My overall point is use your resources, be patient, and wait for the right deal. And be reasonable. Obviously you want the best deal, but be realistic about what deal you think you can get. Some dealers really want to make a sale and they will offer prices that show you that. Others just want money, as much as they can get, and they seem unwilling to negotiate at all. Even if they do, I am leary of those places because they tend to be the ones that suck at the "after sale" needs of a customer. In Danville, they had their price, and that was their price. They wouldnt budge from that. Even though we knew there were others at the price we wanted, they still didnt want to make a deal unless it was their price. If we didnt want to pay that we could take a hike, so we did. And they still havent sold it... But we enjoyed our new RV for the last 3 months of the camping season.
 

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