New owners of a 2013 Shamrock 21SS, hooray!

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Just wanted to stop in and say hi since I may become a frequent visitor.

Over the weekend we pulled the trigger on a 2013 Shamrock 21SS and expect to bring it home within a week or so. The dealer is going to do a final inspection to ensure there are no issues and then schedule a day to come pick it up.

We've run the gamut when it comes to RVs and we hope that we're going to end up with something that's "just right" for us with this 21SS.

Our first TT was a new 2010 Keystone Hideout 31BHS. This was a quad rear bunk TT with a super slide for the U-shaped dinette and couch. It was quite large and a bit of a pain to take some places, but we always had room for people to sleep in addition to our 2 kids. Alas, we didn't get as much use out of it as we had hoped and we didn't like how disconnected from the outdoors we were when inside. The beds on each end accounted for quite a bit of the trailer length as well and the short queen up front wasn't very comfortable with me being 6'1".

A couple of years or so after we sold that we ended up buying an '89 Monaco diesel pusher. It was a classic in relatively good shape, everything worked, and we made some fun trips towing our PWCs to places like Lake Mohave and Blythe (we were living in SoCal at the time). It was a beast, though, and being a 1989 it wasn't a very refined driving experience. We were in the process of relocating to the Midwest and I didn't want to drive it all the way out here so we sold it before moving in Spring of 2015.

Last year we bought a Flagstaff BR28TSC. This is a pretty good sized pop-up with a slide out dinette and a toy hauler deck up front. We wanted something with a toilet and shower so the choices were limited. Long story short, we never used the shower and used the toilet once. They just weren't convenient, the toilet had a cassette which was OK but still a bit of a pain and the sink/shower had no holding tanks, so I made a DIY portable holding tank but it was just too small and was still a pain to use. It also had A/C, which was another requirement, but there was no full thermostat for it. The fan was always on and it was just the compressor that would turn on and off so it was difficult to be comfortable at night without the roar of the A/C being on all night. The fridge (hah) was too tiny to hold more than one lunch for 4 people so we never used it, either. However, we all loved sleeping in the canvas, feeling the breeze, hearing the birds, etc. That's when I suggested our next move be to a hybrid.

All the amenities that we were missing while still retaining the canvas beds. The interior space is also quite decent, the only compromise being the size of the bathroom/shower but it's something we can live with. After all, we don't hang out in the bathroom. :D Can't wait to have ducted heat and A/C again, a usable fridge with a freezer, an awning that we can put out easily instead of "Oops, we forgot to roll the awning out before raising the roof," etc.

The much simpler setup, just slightly more involved than our previous TT, will be welcome as well. Putting the pop-up away to get back on the road was a bit of a chore. Not nearly as bad as a tent, but enough that it was something I really didn't want to deal with.

Anyway, seems like most people are really happy with their Roo/Shamrock 21SS hybrids and I was pretty impressed with the build quality/materials used compared to the 2010 trailer we had, of course that was more of a budget TT with some upgrades, but nonetheless we definitely feel like this is a great upgrade considering the relatively small price difference between what we sold our pop-up for and what we're getting the 21SS for.

We can't wait for Spring!
 
Great camper. Invest in some PopUp Gizmos, well worth it.

Ohh, first time I've heard of those. They definitely look like they would be nice to have in the summer where there's no shade. Thanks! :)

Any common gotchas/issues with these trailers? I saw some people had issues with metal seams on corners near the hinges leaking due to poor/damaged sealant, not sure if that's common and should be part of regular seam/caulk checks or just manufacturer goofs. Leaks when closed are my biggest concern, though, so anything to watch out for there would be greatly appreciated.
 
Congrats on your new Roo. I think the 2013s have the permanently attached canvas so that should be better than the older style with bungee cords that we had on our 2010 Roo. The Popup Gizmos work great for providing shade and reducing condensation. Definitely get the super high wind version.

They are built very well but my only caution would be to make sure that the bunk door seals work well. If they don't seal properly, you can get delamination of the bunk doors.
 
Congrats. We love the tent ends which allow for the best of both worlds. Popup gizmos are a good idea if you will be camping in hot weather a lot. Consider some solar panels so you can go to more remote places. We use our shower as a hanging closet. Also, this size is ideal to be able to fit in most campgrounds. Enjoy.
 
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Enjoy yours as much as we do ours and x2 on the PUGS they really do make a difference!
 
Congratulations on your new camper. Hope you have many fun years and lots of good memories with it. Enjoy!
 
Congrats on your new Roo. I think the 2013s have the permanently attached canvas so that should be better than the older style with bungee cords that we had on our 2010 Roo. The Popup Gizmos work great for providing shade and reducing condensation. Definitely get the super high wind version.

Thanks! Yeah, I wanted to get one as new as possible and definitely newer than 2010 since based on what I've seen the build quality and features have really improved since then. I don't have anything to substantiate why, but my guess is that RV manufacturers were finally seeing the market recover after things tanked in the late 2000s and they not only had the money to make this happen, they also had good competition again and wanted give customers a reason to buy their products. Whatever the reason, I can't complain. This 2013 (picking it up Friday) is leaps and bounds better built than the 2010 TT we had.

They are built very well but my only caution would be to make sure that the bunk door seals work well. If they don't seal properly, you can get delamination of the bunk doors.

Is there a thread, video, or anything that will give me an idea of good vs bad seals? I'd like to know what to look for before it becomes a problem and if there's any preventative maintenance that will help then I'm all ears.

Thanks again everyone, we're super excited!
 
Congrats on your trailer! Mine is a 2014. We love it most of the time. Not so much when it's raining. I'm one of the hopefully few whose tent ends leak. The tents were replaced under warranty and still leak. I have an idea to try when the weather warms up.

Here are pictures of what my seals were like. I used "Tear-Aid" tape to eliminate the gaps, which has worked. During the winter months I put vinyl siding J-channel across the top as an additional measure. If this fails before long I'll replace the seals making the top one longer to create a drip edge and no gaps. Like the symbol for Pi.

I've also included the instructions for the newer style bunk latches. Best of luck with your trailer.
 

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Congrats on your trailer! Mine is a 2014. We love it most of the time. Not so much when it's raining. I'm one of the hopefully few whose tent ends leak. The tents were replaced under warranty and still leak. I have an idea to try when the weather warms up.

Here are pictures of what my seals were like. I used "Tear-Aid" tape to eliminate the gaps, which has worked. During the winter months I put vinyl siding J-channel across the top as an additional measure. If this fails before long I'll replace the seals making the top one longer to create a drip edge and no gaps. Like the symbol for Pi.

I've also included the instructions for the newer style bunk latches. Best of luck with your trailer.

Thanks for the info, that's pretty much what I would be looking for as well, gaps where rain could get in. I looked at the tent ends pretty closely when we looked at the trailer and it all looked in great shape with no obvious signs of leaks, but I'll definitely be checking the seals regularly to make sure something doesn't have the chance to develop and cause damage.
 
Congrats on your trailer! Mine is a 2014. We love it most of the time. Not so much when it's raining. I'm one of the hopefully few whose tent ends leak. The tents were replaced under warranty and still leak. I have an idea to try when the weather warms up.

Here are pictures of what my seals were like. I used "Tear-Aid" tape to eliminate the gaps, which has worked. During the winter months I put vinyl siding J-channel across the top as an additional measure. If this fails before long I'll replace the seals making the top one longer to create a drip edge and no gaps. Like the symbol for Pi.

I've also included the instructions for the newer style bunk latches. Best of luck with your trailer.
Pretty sure 2013's still had the cargo door latches and not the Roto Vise latches.
 
Yeah, 99.9% certain these have the cargo door latches. I think the change was in 2015 maybe? I read about it but don't recall when the change was made exactly.

Picking it up tomorrow morning after doing a final walk-through to make sure I didn't miss any issues or damage. Exciting! Is it Spring yet? :)
 
Picked up the trailer this morning and it's sitting in my driveway now. I would be surprised if this trailer were used more than a couple of times, everything is in brand-new condition. Even the outdoor grill is brand new, never cooked on. The cords for the lights/fans for the tents still have the cords tied and the plastic cover on the coiled cord. Canvas looks brand new, too.

So, needless to say I think we got a pretty awesome trailer for the money and we're super excited to start using it!
 
Congratulations, we had used a popup for several years and really liked the feel of being outdoors, most of our camping is either in a national forest campground or no campground at all. Last year after looking for a year or so we decided on the 21ss and bought a 2017 last spring. We really like it and used it 39 nights last season. The only issue I have had with it is trying to get in the slide out without taking half my head off because it is a bit low, I am 6ft. you would think I would learn but so far haven't. Haha One of our favorite camping spots takes us over about 20 miles of gravel/dirt roads and the 21ss has held up very well. Like you we are looking forward to spring. Happy Camping!!
 

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