Soon to be new 5th wheel owners

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Hello all, we are closing on our house at the end of this week and have a 2025 Saber 32GKS picked out for our next stage in life. This will be our first RV and we'll need to buy a truck to pull it with so I was hoping to get some input from you folks. I know this is a big can of worms with lots of opinions but I'm curious to hear what you think are the pros and cons. I've always been a Ford guy.
We've narrowed our choices down to either a Ford F350, 6.7L diesel OR a Dodge 3500 6.7L Cummins, something between 2018 and 2024 depending on what deal we can find.
We appreciate any input and will be poking around on this forum quite a bit.
Cheers!
 
Moved thread from the Welcome Mat section to the Towing, Tow Vehicles and Hitches sub-forum since the OP's post is mainly about Tow Vehicles.

Though I love my Ford F150, I have found that the 5th generation of the Ram Heavy Duty trucks, offer more cool features, compared to Ford. Also the Cummins 6.7 is well loved and respected. What Ram has done with the interior is great, especially with use of space.
 
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Either of those trucks would do you well.
Forget "trailer tow capacity". It is meaningless.
Get whichever truck has the most PAYLOAD capacity.
You will most likely be over 2500 lbs of pin weight with that trailer fully loaded. Perhaps approaching 3000 lbs.
You may want to consider a dually.
 
Moved thread from the Welcome Mat section to the Towing, Tow Vehicles and Hitches sub-forum since the OP's post is mainly about Tow Vehicles.

Though I love my Ford F150, I have found that the 5th generation of the Ram Heavy Duty trucks, offer more cool features, compared to Ford. Also the Cummins 6.7 is well loved and respected. What Ram has done with the interior is great, especially with use of space.
Thanks! The people I have spoken with have mentioned similar qualities for the Dodge. Starting to lean that way, LOL.
 
Either of those trucks would do you well.
Forget "trailer tow capacity". It is meaningless.
Get whichever truck has the most PAYLOAD capacity.
You will most likely be over 2500 lbs of pin weight with that trailer fully loaded. Perhaps approaching 3000 lbs.
You may want to consider a dually.
Thanks, for the comments.
 
This is actually my first post here although I’ve been a member since 2020, but I thought I might be able to give some insight based on my experience, especially with Ram trucks. Sorry for the length.

My first Ram was a 2014 2500 with the 6.4 hemi, which I traded for a 2016 2500 CTD. Both of these trucks pulled a 36ft travel trailer. We then bought a 2021 Rockwood 2622rk 5th wheel. It was under the max for the 2016 payload but not a lot. Both of these trucks were Tradesmen trims. We lived in Colorado at the time & diesel is much better in the mountains (my experience).

In 2021 while camping outside of Walsenburg the Transmission locked itself into 4th gear & said have a nice day. Ram dealer in Pueblo said they couldn’t even look at it for 3 weeks & I was looking at a minimum of 3 months to repair (parts shortages). So we decided to buy a new truck instead.

The only truck we could find with factory pucks, on a Saturday afternoon was a SRW 3500 limited. Truck was overkill for the Rockwood. Truck was loaded, HO Cummins, Aisin trans, & 3934 lbs of payload. I loved this truck. Never had a single issue with it.

Last November we decided to buy a new 5th wheel. I gave my wife a 16,000 lb weight limit & she picked a Columbus 383 FB. I looked at the numbers did a bunch of math & thought we’d be ok, close but ok. Finally managed to go across a Cat scale, which I had done with the Rockwood previously. Turns out with a generator in the bed, the hitch, full tank of diesel, 2 larger dogs & the wife we had 7460lbs on the rear axle, SRW 3500 Rams have a 7000lb rear axle.

Enter the 2024 Ram 3500 DRW Tradesmen. I’m not a fan of this truck. It’s too stripped, best things on it are the air suspension, & the power mirrors, doesn’t even have cloth interior. It does have 5275 lbs of payload. Not to mention the fact it has less than 1k miles on it & has an issue with the Uconnect. It’s a common issue since 2022 & they still haven’t fixed it during production. It doesn’t seem to be anything but annoying right now since it clears when it’s acknowledged.
That being said, all the manufacturers have issues so pick your poison I guess.

The point to this overly long post is this. Just buy the dually in whatever flavor you like if you’re looking at 5th wheels (future proof). These things aren’t getting any cheaper & you may find yourself in my position of having to buy a truck you don’t care for (needed factory pucks or new hitch). I thought I’d never buy a big enough 5th to need a dually, turns out I was wrong. Only good thing is the limited was almost paid for & the dually new was 25k cheaper than a 4 year old limited was new.
 
This is actually my first post here although I’ve been a member since 2020, but I thought I might be able to give some insight based on my experience, especially with Ram trucks. Sorry for the length.

My first Ram was a 2014 2500 with the 6.4 hemi, which I traded for a 2016 2500 CTD. Both of these trucks pulled a 36ft travel trailer. We then bought a 2021 Rockwood 2622rk 5th wheel. It was under the max for the 2016 payload but not a lot. Both of these trucks were Tradesmen trims. We lived in Colorado at the time & diesel is much better in the mountains (my experience).

In 2021 while camping outside of Walsenburg the Transmission locked itself into 4th gear & said have a nice day. Ram dealer in Pueblo said they couldn’t even look at it for 3 weeks & I was looking at a minimum of 3 months to repair (parts shortages). So we decided to buy a new truck instead.

The only truck we could find with factory pucks, on a Saturday afternoon was a SRW 3500 limited. Truck was overkill for the Rockwood. Truck was loaded, HO Cummins, Aisin trans, & 3934 lbs of payload. I loved this truck. Never had a single issue with it.

Last November we decided to buy a new 5th wheel. I gave my wife a 16,000 lb weight limit & she picked a Columbus 383 FB. I looked at the numbers did a bunch of math & thought we’d be ok, close but ok. Finally managed to go across a Cat scale, which I had done with the Rockwood previously. Turns out with a generator in the bed, the hitch, full tank of diesel, 2 larger dogs & the wife we had 7460lbs on the rear axle, SRW 3500 Rams have a 7000lb rear axle.

Enter the 2024 Ram 3500 DRW Tradesmen. I’m not a fan of this truck. It’s too stripped, best things on it are the air suspension, & the power mirrors, doesn’t even have cloth interior. It does have 5275 lbs of payload. Not to mention the fact it has less than 1k miles on it & has an issue with the Uconnect. It’s a common issue since 2022 & they still haven’t fixed it during production. It doesn’t seem to be anything but annoying right now since it clears when it’s acknowledged.
That being said, all the manufacturers have issues so pick your poison I guess.

The point to this overly long post is this. Just buy the dually in whatever flavor you like if you’re looking at 5th wheels (future proof). These things aren’t getting any cheaper & you may find yourself in my position of having to buy a truck you don’t care for (needed factory pucks or new hitch). I thought I’d never buy a big enough 5th to need a dually, turns out I was wrong. Only good thing is the limited was almost paid for & the dually new was 25k cheaper than a 4 year old limited was new.
Thanks @Ctroadking for the in depth post. We hadn't considered the dually but will have to take a look at them.
 
This is actually my first post here although I’ve been a member since 2020, but I thought I might be able to give some insight based on my experience, especially with Ram trucks. Sorry for the length.

My first Ram was a 2014 2500 with the 6.4 hemi, which I traded for a 2016 2500 CTD. Both of these trucks pulled a 36ft travel trailer. We then bought a 2021 Rockwood 2622rk 5th wheel. It was under the max for the 2016 payload but not a lot. Both of these trucks were Tradesmen trims. We lived in Colorado at the time & diesel is much better in the mountains (my experience).

In 2021 while camping outside of Walsenburg the Transmission locked itself into 4th gear & said have a nice day. Ram dealer in Pueblo said they couldn’t even look at it for 3 weeks & I was looking at a minimum of 3 months to repair (parts shortages). So we decided to buy a new truck instead.

The only truck we could find with factory pucks, on a Saturday afternoon was a SRW 3500 limited. Truck was overkill for the Rockwood. Truck was loaded, HO Cummins, Aisin trans, & 3934 lbs of payload. I loved this truck. Never had a single issue with it.

Last November we decided to buy a new 5th wheel. I gave my wife a 16,000 lb weight limit & she picked a Columbus 383 FB. I looked at the numbers did a bunch of math & thought we’d be ok, close but ok. Finally managed to go across a Cat scale, which I had done with the Rockwood previously. Turns out with a generator in the bed, the hitch, full tank of diesel, 2 larger dogs & the wife we had 7460lbs on the rear axle, SRW 3500 Rams have a 7000lb rear axle.

Enter the 2024 Ram 3500 DRW Tradesmen. I’m not a fan of this truck. It’s too stripped, best things on it are the air suspension, & the power mirrors, doesn’t even have cloth interior. It does have 5275 lbs of payload. Not to mention the fact it has less than 1k miles on it & has an issue with the Uconnect. It’s a common issue since 2022 & they still haven’t fixed it during production. It doesn’t seem to be anything but annoying right now since it clears when it’s acknowledged.
That being said, all the manufacturers have issues so pick your poison I guess.

The point to this overly long post is this. Just buy the dually in whatever flavor you like if you’re looking at 5th wheels (future proof). These things aren’t getting any cheaper & you may find yourself in my position of having to buy a truck you don’t care for (needed factory pucks or new hitch). I thought I’d never buy a big enough 5th to need a dually, turns out I was wrong. Only good thing is the limited was almost paid for & the dually new was 25k cheaper than a 4 year old limited was new.
"factory pucks" = 5th wheel receiver. Is that correct?
 
Tradesman is more stripped than my SLT. I would not recommend a Tradesman for long travel, although I have a friend that towed with the Chevy equivalent and he loved it.

You have a good plan, 2018 or newer. The 2017 and older Ram trucks don't have the creature comfort updates they introduced in 2018.
 
"factory pucks" = 5th wheel receiver. Is that correct?
Yes more or less. They are holes in the bed of the truck to install a 5th wheel hitch or gooseball. Each manufacturer has their own configuration so if you have a 5th wheel hitch for a Ram, it won’t work in a Ford.

I agree with RobbieH. Higher trim level’s are more comfortable for traveling long distance. In my particular situation I wanted the HO Cummins with the Aisin. Tradesmen were all I could find within 100 miles unless I wanted to drop 90k on another limited & all the 2025 trucks listed were “being built”. Wasn’t much out there used so I went with new.
 
Now I've never owned a 5er nor a diesel PU SRW nor DRW but I have several friends that do and this is what I see what needs to be given some thought. I have a 45' DP but several times looked at switching and the biggest things friends point out with a dually is it can be difficult to find parking spots in towns, cities etc.. it takes sone getting use to especially driving it around these same places. Your back-in is wide and you have to be on heighten alert taking corners, going thru drive-thrus, etc.. and if your looking to garage it make sure you have a large garage and a wide door. In time you'll get use to it but like driving my 45' it takes time. So in closing I'd vote DRW but only you can make the decision.
 
Hello all, we are closing on our house at the end of this week and have a 2025 Saber 32GKS picked out for our next stage in life. This will be our first RV and we'll need to buy a truck to pull it with so I was hoping to get some input from you folks. I know this is a big can of worms with lots of opinions but I'm curious to hear what you think are the pros and cons. I've always been a Ford guy.
We've narrowed our choices down to either a Ford F350, 6.7L diesel OR a Dodge 3500 6.7L Cummins, something between 2018 and 2024 depending on what deal we can find.
We appreciate any input and will be poking around on this forum quite a bit.
Cheers!
We have a ford f 350 diesel 6.7 short bed. I think it’s the best sense the 7.3. We pull a cedar creek ik29 with no problem.
 
21 or 22 F350 with the next gen 6.7 and 10 speed transmission is one powerful towing truck. For stability and ease of operation, you want a long bed, that way you have no worries about getting into a tight turning situation where you can take out the cab and back window in a heartbeat. It also makes for a more comfortable ride with the long wheel base. I had a 2019 F450 and took our 43' long 3660SUITE from Rockford IL to Austin Texas via Alabama and the long 8-10 hour drives were very comfortable, with the adaptive cruise, just set it and let the truck do the driving. I traded it for a 2024 F350 DRW since I use it more to go to and from work than towing so wanted a more comfortable empty ride than what the 450 has when empty. Now it has Adaptive stop and go with lane centering, it damn near drives itself!

What you get over the RAM though is a body that doesn't rust, along with a more powerful engine. Everything else just comes down to cosmetics.

Oh and as for parking my DRW? no issues, I stay out of cities, and park at the edges of lots, backing in so the rear can extend past the curb so it doesn't stick out as much. I can usually one shot it backing in, no pulling up, just takes practice, the the F450 was always a one shot in, that truck could turn inside itself.
 
I’ve been driving a dually (2011 F-350 and now a 2015 F-350 dually). They are not difficult to drive if you realize the hips are no wider than your mirrors. And, those big mirrors are easy to check your hips when making a turn. Easy peasy!
 
As others have said, either truck would serve you well. I'm here to provide a little different alternative--the F450. Yes, in some respects it is overkill, but...the wider front track gives it an insanely sharp turning circle. It easily turns inside my old F350 SRW 6.5'bed. The brakes are also bigger than those in the F350/3500 series. So far, I haven't noticed much of a difference in fuel economy with the new truck. And yes, there is a noticeable difference in stability between SRW and DRW, especially in the curves.
 
Any brand of 3500/350 diesel is going to do the job you want to do. I think it's mostly personal preference and what kind of deal you can get. Though I own and like Ram (mine is the 6.4 gas), if I was getting a Ram 3500 diesel it would have to be a 2025. Seems to me the 6 speed transmission on the 2024 and earlier are dated where the 25s finally get an 8 speed. Rams also seem priced higher for a similar trim level. Also, have you considered a Chevy? I got the Ram mostly because I could get a crew cab that would fit in my garage while a crew cab standard box chevy is a foot longer and wouldn't fit. Otherwise I would have gone with a Chevy.
 
Hello all, we are closing on our house at the end of this week and have a 2025 Saber 32GKS picked out for our next stage in life. This will be our first RV and we'll need to buy a truck to pull it with so I was hoping to get some input from you folks. I know this is a big can of worms with lots of opinions but I'm curious to hear what you think are the pros and cons. I've always been a Ford guy.
We've narrowed our choices down to either a Ford F350, 6.7L diesel OR a Dodge 3500 6.7L Cummins, something between 2018 and 2024 depending on what deal we can find.
We appreciate any input and will be poking around on this forum quite a bit.
Cheers!
I hope you have better luck with your 32gks than I have. Bought new June of 24 and has been back to dealership most of the time I have owned it.
So many problems I couldn’t even start to list all of them but the landing gear and main computer were the two main issues. Both had to be replaced.
If you try to auto level even on flat surface with it already level it will try to turn itself over lifting wheels completely off the ground then start blowing fuses
The kitchen faucet broke on first trip. TV wiring will not work even after being repaired The list is endless.
It’s been a huge disappointment
 
Hello all, we are closing on our house at the end of this week and have a 2025 Saber 32GKS picked out for our next stage in life. This will be our first RV and we'll need to buy a truck to pull it with so I was hoping to get some input from you folks. I know this is a big can of worms with lots of opinions but I'm curious to hear what you think are the pros and cons. I've always been a Ford guy.
We've narrowed our choices down to either a Ford F350, 6.7L diesel OR a Dodge 3500 6.7L Cummins, something between 2018 and 2024 depending on what deal we can find.
We appreciate any input and will be poking around on this forum quite a bit.
Cheers!
I have a 2008 Dodge Ram 3500 with the 6.7 Cummins. It tows my 38' 5th wheel no problem. The weak spot in Dodge diesels is their automatic transmission. I've had to replace mine a few years back and it was over 6K. I would still take it over a Ford. The Chevy Duramax is ok and the Allison transmission is damn near bullet proof. Wish there was a way to bolt the Allison to the Cummins. Just my humble opinion.
 
What you get over the RAM though is a body that doesn't rust
Huh? Even my 1996 Dodge Ram 2500 which is pretty beat up from use on a ranch has zero rust.

The Allison transmission - Allison branded. It's not a real Allison like in a DP. They are built by GM.

Honestly though, I wish they still made them with manual transmissions, this 2018 is my first auto. They've done a lot of work on them since the older days though, they aren't nearly as unreliable as they used to be.
 

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